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Seriously, what the hell are you guys going off about?

How is a racial segregation skill useful? It doesn't save you money, it adds an artificial limittation, it doesn't give you any skill in any ship type. It was only ever used ONCE EVER when creating a corporation when you installed it to the Corporation settings. Which half the time was done by another alt toon who had trained all corp skills to max.

I don't care how useful you think the Ally discount is for yourself, the last skill is absolutely freaking useless, so by all standards any change, no matter how useless you think it is, equals ZERO loss because you can't go any lower.

Leave the freakin devs alone about this nonsense.

I say it's in the secondary window because that's the only place I could find it. A fresh, unstacked, primary window had no ≡ menu. The only reason I looked there was because after not seeing it in the primary one, I remembered a devpost saying that's where it was (though I admittedly could be remembering wrong.)

Whether or not it's better in the escape menu or not is, of course, debatable. And probably a waste of time. However, the difference between the inventory and the overview/drone/fleet windows is that inventory is a thing you use no matter what your profession, and can easily have a dozen open. The others only ever have a maximum of 1 open at a time. And that's the core of the problem... every other window that has that menu style is a very specialized window that is used in very specific circumstances. Inventory is used for absolutely everything. And the devs who work on inventory just don't seem to get how important it is. It's almost like they don't play EVE enough to have ever even used the inventory before crapping on it.

also: whether or not putting the settings for anything in individual windows is the optimal solution is also debatable. Several times a day, I'm telling rookies about the ≡ menus for various things. I mean, for now it works in most cases, but it's still a pretty weird way of handling settings. I'm not sure I can name any other software in the world that behaves the same way. It adds complexity where you don't really need complexity.

No role bonus.

The roll bonus on the other 2 is just to bring their output up to 3 strip miner equivalents.

I'm going to be generous and assume I failed to explain myself properly.

No one is upset that they removed the old Ethnic Relations. The skill sucked - you're completely right about that. However, back when there was an artificial limitation, some people trained it anyways because they wanted to grow their corp. That wasn't stupid - given the game as it existed, it was a reasonable thing to do.

But the old way was bad, and it's good that they changed it. What do you do with characters who have the skill? Well, there are two solutions. You can laugh at them for wasting skill points ("ha ha, you invested in a game mechanic that we changed!") or you can give them a refund. CCP decided on option 1, except instead of just erasing the points, they forced you to take a useless skill so you would never forget how you got screwed.

how in the world can i turn off this horrible Module mouseover enhancement..... it messing up my grove ... please have an op out of this feature ... or a turn off in esc Menu or something .... take it off

You are deliberately being obtuse. You removed a skill that was required for any CEO that wanted more than 3 people in his or her corp. You have replaced it with a skill that is useless to anybody that isn't in Privateers and are not giving people the option to have their SP back.

This is not "re-balancing". You did this with learning skills. Do you remember what you did with those SP? Yes, you refunded them.

Get off your high horse. Admit you screwed the pooch and fix the problem that you created.

For someone who supposedly never has to worry about a wardec, you seem to be getting pretty angry. You might actually need that new skill, so might be best to hold on to it.

So if you just Gave a Loki the same Internal ID number as an Ibis, so when you loaded the game you would have an Ibis instead of your Loki. Then I guess you really didn't take away one ship and give a completely different one in its place?

That statement with the ID numbers is just an arrogant way of telling them the way you got around refunding SP's.
It didnt answer the question. I agree. I trained this skill because it was REQUIRED to start a corp if I wanted other people to join from other empires. Now that that requirement is no longer needed than the SP's should be refunded and id I want the new skill that was added I will put them into that.
That or give me a refund in $$ prorated to the amount of time it took me to train that skill to the level it was at. As I paid you while I was training that skill instead of other skills.

It's a rank 2 skill representing a week of training at level 5. My Nyx alt has ~8M skillpoints in drone skills that have been absolutely useless since Crucible, representing 4-5 months of training. I'm not bitter nor am I demanding SP reimbursement.