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Can you 'download' a subwoofer program?
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Cristym 04Commander
Jita Trading Inc.
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#1 - 2011-10-10 14:28:43 UTC
I have my own subwoofer for my pc but I have some pretty good headphones and I love listening to dubstep but I want to know if there is some sort of subwoofer emulator/program thing I can download to increase the bass even more so I can just sizzle my brain!

If you can link me one I shall give you an almighty sum of 20 mil!
Vicker Lahn'se
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-10 17:05:00 UTC
It's called an equalizer. Search Google.
Dunbar Hulan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-10-10 18:21:36 UTC
Tried lowering the treble and raising the bass on your speakers?

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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#4 - 2011-10-10 18:56:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Well, that's not going to have the 'music' as how the engineer wanted it.

Sigh, to think that for decades looking at the perfect amp, the right cables, the best plugs it now all comes down to this.

Best of luck with your search but I would have thought the best thing to do may be to modify the headphones or, as the first replier said, use an equalizer.

First thing I would do is to change the plugs and cables. I'll wager that what you have make the sound thinner than they ought. If you're nifty with a soldering iron then look for some Van Damm cable with a Nutrix plug. Both easily had on eBay.

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Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#5 - 2011-10-11 23:32:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
Well, that's not going to have the 'music' as how the engineer wanted it.

Sigh, to think that for decades looking at the perfect amp, the right cables, the best plugs it now all comes down to this.

Best of luck with your search but I would have thought the best thing to do may be to modify the headphones or, as the first replier said, use an equalizer.

First thing I would do is to change the plugs and cables. I'll wager that what you have make the sound thinner than they ought. If you're nifty with a soldering iron then look for some Van Damm cable with a Nutrix plug. Both easily had on eBay.

Not sure if serious...

Given that his current cables and connectors weren't manufactured by monkeys, nobody could tell the difference in the two. "Premium" cables and connectors are a joke, and just about every test that any reputable organization has ever used has shown this. "High End" speaker cables are especially useless, since the loads on them are usually high enough that any RF interference that leaks in will be so insignificant that you can't hear it.

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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#6 - 2011-10-12 12:46:20 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
Well, that's not going to have the 'music' as how the engineer wanted it.

Sigh, to think that for decades looking at the perfect amp, the right cables, the best plugs it now all comes down to this.

Best of luck with your search but I would have thought the best thing to do may be to modify the headphones or, as the first replier said, use an equalizer.

First thing I would do is to change the plugs and cables. I'll wager that what you have make the sound thinner than they ought. If you're nifty with a soldering iron then look for some Van Damm cable with a Nutrix plug. Both easily had on eBay.

Not sure if serious...

Given that his current cables and connectors weren't manufactured by monkeys, nobody could tell the difference in the two. "Premium" cables and connectors are a joke, and just about every test that any reputable organization has ever used has shown this. "High End" speaker cables are especially useless, since the loads on them are usually high enough that any RF interference that leaks in will be so insignificant that you can't hear it.


Very serious.

Two exampes, on a Stevie Wonder track the sqeak on the drum's bass pedal can now be heard here. On one of my favourite Van Halen tracks the fret buzz is now audible enough to make the track unlistenable.

Remember that most stuff these days are engineered for the mp3 generation which tend to listen to, well, compressed mp3s, through bud headphones and bad cabling. In other words, the engineers don't care. But listen to older stuff, where they did care and with superior equipment (times does move on) and things that I have mentiond do occur.

One chum I know has been around the world building recording studios and engineering on almost everything since the 60s tells me that he's glad he out of the game because of the quailty is no longer required. But he does agree with me that good cabling does make a difference.

I have ears. I don't play mp3s. There's a reason for that.

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Kalmanaka
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-12 14:57:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalmanaka
I grew up in the mobile DJ business that my brother started and learned a few things along the way.

Bass is slow moving air. Lots of it. To have bass, the speaker has to move air. The more bass you want, the more air that must be moved. Size matters. The smaller the speaker is, the less capable it is to create bass tones. It simply cannot move that much air. The bigger the speaker, the more bass you have (to a point).

There's a whole ton of "subwoofers" out there that are terrible at moving air. Anyone who puts a 3" (7cm) speaker in a particleboard box and calls it a subwoofer should be shot. They simply won't produce good bass sounds even if you use an equalizer. Attempting to force them to do so will damage them. This is why so many people have blown speakers in their car. They turn the bass all the way up, turn down the treble, then force the speakers to move farther than designed and they rip themselves apart. Literally. Then you get to listen to music that sounds like it was written for bees.

Before buying headphones, check the frequency response. If you can't find the frequency response listed anywhere don't buy them. Remember that some companies will lie about the numbers too. If a set of ear buds says 10HZ-25kHz, they're lying.

You need headphones that have the huge cups that cover half your head and make you look like you're getting ready to go shovel snow in -30 weather. 10Hz on the low end is pretty much all a set of headphones can do. I've seen some that say 8Hz but most people can't hear that low anyway. 10Hz is the bass you can feel, not hear, and is reproduced better by giant speakers that make you feel like you're getting beaten up by an Air Bender.

Bottom line is if you want bass, you have to get a bigger subwoofer or better headphones. You'd be hard pressed to get really good, powerful bass from a speaker smaller than 8" (20cm). 12" (30cm) and up is a safe bet. An EQ can help a little but you increase the chance of ruining the subwoofer you have. In the old days we'd use 6 speakers for music. Six channels, two channel stereo each with a high, mid, and low. Channels are used for surround now though so a lot of the quality has been lost.

edit: added metric so the other 80% of the world will know what I'm talking about.
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#8 - 2011-10-12 19:52:10 UTC
Kalmanaka wrote:
I grew up in the mobile DJ business that my brother started and learned a few things along the way.

Bass is slow moving air. Lots of it. To have bass, the speaker has to move air. The more bass you want, the more air that must be moved. Size matters. The smaller the speaker is, the less capable it is to create bass tones. It simply cannot move that much air. The bigger the speaker, the more bass you have (to a point).

There's a whole ton of "subwoofers" out there that are terrible at moving air. Anyone who puts a 3" (7cm) speaker in a particleboard box and calls it a subwoofer should be shot. They simply won't produce good bass sounds even if you use an equalizer. Attempting to force them to do so will damage them. This is why so many people have blown speakers in their car. They turn the bass all the way up, turn down the treble, then force the speakers to move farther than designed and they rip themselves apart. Literally. Then you get to listen to music that sounds like it was written for bees.

Before buying headphones, check the frequency response. If you can't find the frequency response listed anywhere don't buy them. Remember that some companies will lie about the numbers too. If a set of ear buds says 10HZ-25kHz, they're lying.

You need headphones that have the huge cups that cover half your head and make you look like you're getting ready to go shovel snow in -30 weather. 10Hz on the low end is pretty much all a set of headphones can do. I've seen some that say 8Hz but most people can't hear that low anyway. 10Hz is the bass you can feel, not hear, and is reproduced better by giant speakers that make you feel like you're getting beaten up by an Air Bender.

Bottom line is if you want bass, you have to get a bigger subwoofer or better headphones. You'd be hard pressed to get really good, powerful bass from a speaker smaller than 8" (20cm). 12" (30cm) and up is a safe bet. An EQ can help a little but you increase the chance of ruining the subwoofer you have. In the old days we'd use 6 speakers for music. Six channels, two channel stereo each with a high, mid, and low. Channels are used for surround now though so a lot of the quality has been lost.

edit: added metric so the other 80% of the world will know what I'm talking about.



I love your post. Especially the 'shot' part.

As a further point to the 'cable quaility doesn't matter' issue thing. I just rewired my guitar.

The internal cabling came rom the local roadie returning from an Iron Maiden tour in some foreign parts. The sound out of the thing was far better than the choked stuff before. The make? Van Damme.

We have mates in the US' Musicians' Institue experimenting with cables, cable length and even the type of 9v batter used in pedals. Yes, cables make a huge difference. A massive difference and anyone who doesn't think so really need their ears cleaning and be taken off the diseased mp3s.



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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#9 - 2011-10-12 19:55:15 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
Well, that's not going to have the 'music' as how the engineer wanted it.

Sigh, to think that for decades looking at the perfect amp, the right cables, the best plugs it now all comes down to this.

Best of luck with your search but I would have thought the best thing to do may be to modify the headphones or, as the first replier said, use an equalizer.

First thing I would do is to change the plugs and cables. I'll wager that what you have make the sound thinner than they ought. If you're nifty with a soldering iron then look for some Van Damm cable with a Nutrix plug. Both easily had on eBay.

Not sure if serious...

Given that his current cables and connectors weren't manufactured by monkeys, nobody could tell the difference in the two. "Premium" cables and connectors are a joke, and just about every test that any reputable organization has ever used has shown this. "High End" speaker cables are especially useless, since the loads on them are usually high enough that any RF interference that leaks in will be so insignificant that you can't hear it.



Luckily the likes of Trevor Horn and Abbey Road don't agree wih you.

Pam:  I wonder what my name means in Welsh?Nessa: Why?
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#10 - 2011-10-12 20:05:46 UTC
Kalmanaka wrote:
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I have a nasty feeling that we may hate each other's music as I did my DJing in the '70s.

But I do agree with what you say. Thumbs up, cudos and the rest.

Hywl.

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Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-10-12 20:10:35 UTC
Um... high end cables do make a difference, whether its headphones, speaker wire, or video cables.

Electrical resistance goes down, RF shielding is better, build quality is better, and durability is a LOT better.

Its like driving to work in a beat up Ford Focus, or driving to work in an Aston Martin Vanquish. Yes, both get you to work, but the Aston Martin will be a heck of a lot nicer ride.
Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-10-12 20:41:19 UTC
I guess the nswer is 'No'.... so upgrade.

Ideas.

Logitech

Grado

Probably a good start. As stated above though, little speakers will always make little bass, and modern headphones seem to have some limiter on nowadays as i remember many headsets going a lot lower in the frequency ranges than most do nowadays. Dont get tempted by Dre - yes theres Bass but it makes mud of a true recording.

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Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-10-12 20:47:12 UTC
cyclobs
Loud Curse Enterprises
#14 - 2011-10-13 05:10:45 UTC  |  Edited by: cyclobs
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:



I love your post. Especially the 'shot' part.

As a further point to the 'cable quaility doesn't matter' issue thing. I just rewired my guitar.

The internal cabling came rom the local roadie returning from an Iron Maiden tour in some foreign parts. The sound out of the thing was far better than the choked stuff before. The make? Van Damme.

We have mates in the US' Musicians' Institue experimenting with cables, cable length and even the type of 9v batter used in pedals. Yes, cables make a huge difference. A massive difference and anyone who doesn't think so really need their ears cleaning and be taken off the diseased mp3s.


+1 but with guitar even the tiniest thing such as the kind of pick you use can drastically change your sound.

none the less i changed a while ago from store brought cheap guitar cables to high quality custom made cables and the difference in sound is astonishing.
sneekyninja
The High and Mighty
#15 - 2011-10-14 06:30:48 UTC
Its true, placebos really do work sometimes.