EVE General Discussion

So your talking about flooding the market with low-end minerals and removing mining for Hi-sec.

There would be no purpose to mining in Hi-sec as with the current Null sec miners the hi-end minerals have already over saturated the market place (Why they are worth so little) and now you are proposing the same for the low end minerals.

You've trolled your own thread by merely writing it.

This is cause and effect, and it's made manifest by the market. But by all means, if all the reward is in hisec, then come and join the hundreds of thousands of players making their fortunes there.

A lot of rocks get mined regardless of value because all they go towards is making Ships. Many mins never reach the market and are simply traded around internally by Corps or between Industry corps.

To throw out a guess, a good 70% of all minerals mined in Null sec never reaches the open market.

Best way to make Spod wanted: make it give a crap load megaciyte. It is not wanted for low yield, not to mention the fact it gives nothing else useful.

Everyone skips for the ABC's so make it give a little mega than those.

Every Capital and Super Capital construction corp like mine would kill to have the risk of "An over supply of minerals" it's just that theres little to no incentive to sell raw mins rather than make it into something.

I would like to see the majority of mining happening in nullsec yes.

If you have a small belt upgrade there's no reason not to get to the next indy level and then you have 2 belts. You keep doing this until you have level 5 then you just mine around the big ******* rock and after stripping that belt you go to the next and mine around the big ******* rock and you keep doing this because there is no way you should be able to mine out all of the belts in a system before the first one you stripped respawns a fresh belt. If you haven't figured out how to time your belt cycling this long after those changes its no wonder your in drone space.

I absolutely know how to rotate the industry belts. Mining around spod isn't the point.

Actually I am talking about the prices of Null sec minerals for sale in High sec and there price being low due to over saturation of the market.

it's simply a market effect.. it's not the ores themselves that are the problem, tweak them and you will just change prices around a bit.

Due to permageddon, a lot of high sec mining has gone boom, high sec mining is one of the prime suppliers of low end minerals in empire, as the low end ores mined in null are all used by capital production down there. The reason the price for all those low ends is going up is simply because supply cannot keep up with demand for them.

I'm a high sec manufacturer myself, and while I can easily get my hands on all the high ends I need, tritanium, pyerite and mexalon ( and isogen to a degree ), are much harder for me to get in sufficient quantities to have my operations run smoothly.
I'm quite sure I'm not the only manufacturer with this problem. The reason being that demand for high end minerals are much lower than the low end minerals when it comes to amounts, combine this with a massive surplus of these high ends going to market in empire by the bucketload from nullsec mining ops, and you get an oversupply of these, while low ends are still not catching up.

The last blog on mining was that it had gone up somewhat in highsec, a little more in low, and massively up in nullsec.
As miners in null sec generally go for the ABCs, as that's supposed to be the most valuable ore, they oversupply the markets with their high end minerals, killing their own prices. Meanwhile due to gankage, high sec mining is lacking behind in supplying the required low end minerals for manufacturers to crank up their production further, thus creating this 'imbalance'.
Also note, that afaik, the low end minerals also are available in null sec to mine. It's not like high sec is the only place to mine these. But due to their low value per m3, shipping these to empire isn't worth a lot.
I know some miners of low ends that see the prices in Jita which are higher than in our region, but they do the math, and having them exported by jumpfreighter costs them more than the difference in price, so it's not worth it for them to export them to Jita.
instead, they are sold/used locally by manufacturers, my guess is that this happens even more in nullsec where those mienrals would be very usefull in manufacturing capital ships and whatnot.

you can't simply wave a magic wand, invent some new ores/tweak current ones, and this 'problem' will go away. this would simply shift prices around a bit, until another equilibrium is reached. As mining in null is at the moment more prolific than in high, whatever this new equilibrium would be, would still favor high sec minerals, simply because they are mined less, and exporting the low end minerals is simply not profitable.