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Amarr T4 Happening tomorrow, sunday 12th
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Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-08-11 21:56:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Karah Serrigan
Seems like nulli gave up. They are flipping the systems as we speak and they will be in possession of amarr faction after the next downtime tomorrow.
However they can only get about 46 systems as of now and time is too short to grind another 10 to vulnerabl tomorrow.
It is now safe to assume that nulli have given up and will push to t4 after downtime, then cashing out and leaving FW.

In b4 excuses. (this means that they have failed their goal to cash out at t5 and are happy to get half the geddons for the same price than they could have had at t5)
ECM Jesus
Wormhole Exploration And Production
#2 - 2012-08-11 21:58:22 UTC
Such bad farmer pigs)).
Self-destruct Its Okay
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-11 22:04:12 UTC
surprise: anchoring and broadcasting for reps is easier than actually piloting ships
Pans Exual
Tackled In Belt
#4 - 2012-08-11 22:04:24 UTC
Maybe they should have fitted guns after all ;p
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#5 - 2012-08-11 22:18:45 UTC
Goodbye nulli - I'll miss you!

If you ever want to come back to fw again, just look me up. QCATS can move down again :)
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#6 - 2012-08-11 22:23:30 UTC
Does this mean no more fights in Metropolis?
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#7 - 2012-08-11 22:55:37 UTC
People make it sound like t4 is chump change. It is not. I'm happy if my militia hits t3. If we hit t4, then I'm grateful and consider it icing on the cake.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Ido Research
C5 Flight
Fraternity.
#8 - 2012-08-11 23:02:11 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
People make it sound like t4 is chump change. It is not. I'm happy if my militia hits t3. If we hit t4, then I'm grateful and consider it icing on the cake.



You have to understand, Minnie's are used to living @ t5 WZC. Anything short of that is viewed as being inferior.
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-08-11 23:02:38 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
People make it sound like t4 is chump change. It is not. I'm happy if my militia hits t3. If we hit t4, then I'm grateful and consider it icing on the cake.



compared to T5, it is
Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-08-11 23:04:39 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
People make it sound like t4 is chump change. It is not. I'm happy if my militia hits t3. If we hit t4, then I'm grateful and consider it icing on the cake.


+5 imps at t4: 32500lp 32,5m isk. Profit=~68m ISK/LP=2.1k
+5 imps at t5: 16250lp 16,25m isk. Profit=~ 84m ISK/LP=5,1k
You see, t4 isnt bad, but t5 is more than twice as good :)
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-08-11 23:09:39 UTC
T4 is having a summer house in the Hamptons rich
T5 is Mr. Burns rich
Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-08-11 23:23:00 UTC
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
T4 is having a summer house in the Hamptons rich
T5 is Mr. Burns rich

t4 is average money. You can get the same rate from highsec missioning. Plexing on your own in a quiet system gives only a bit more LP/h but the obvious advantage is that you only need a merlin and can AFK, but really the ISK isnt as good as people think.
T5 or bust.
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-08-11 23:36:55 UTC
Karah Serrigan wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
T4 is having a summer house in the Hamptons rich
T5 is Mr. Burns rich

t4 is average money. You can get the same rate from highsec missioning. Plexing on your own in a quiet system gives only a bit more LP/h but the obvious advantage is that you only need a merlin and can AFK, but really the ISK isnt as good as people think.
T5 or bust.


guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. 3-4B a week from T4 doing simple plexing is pretty good to me. But then 10B a week at T5 is better
Koujjo Dian
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-08-11 23:42:40 UTC
ISK, ISK, ISK and cashing out. That's all anyone is ever concerned about. Feel like I've walked into a Chinese gold farmer sub section of the forums. I'll be glad when CCP does the next round of FW changes and maybe FW will be about fighting for something instead of lining our wallets.
Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-08-11 23:45:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Karah Serrigan
Koujjo Dian wrote:
ISK, ISK, ISK and cashing out. That's all anyone is ever concerned about. Feel like I've walked into a Chinese gold farmer sub section of the forums. I'll be glad when CCP does the next round of FW changes and maybe FW will be about fighting for something instead of lining our wallets.

What else is there to talk about?
Breaking news, a huge fight broke out between the amarr and minmatar militias on the kamela gate in sosala . It looks like amarr are winning by having killed 3 rifters already and only losing 1 punisher, but minmatar brought reinforcements in form of 3 thrashers. The battle is raging on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Koujjo Dian
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-08-11 23:49:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Koujjo Dian
Karah Serrigan wrote:
Koujjo Dian wrote:
ISK, ISK, ISK and cashing out. That's all anyone is ever concerned about. Feel like I've walked into a Chinese gold farmer sub section of the forums. I'll be glad when CCP does the next round of FW changes and maybe FW will be about fighting for something instead of lining our wallets.

What else is there to talk about?
Breaking news, a huge fight broke out between the amarr and minmatar militias on the kamela gate in sosala . It looks like amarr are winning by having killed 3 rifters already and only losing 1 punisher, but minmatar brought reinforcements in form of 3 thrashers. The battle is raging on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Just seems to me making ISK should be the means to a goal and not the goal itself. The system is to blame and not necessarily the players, but the way ISK seems to dominate any conversation regarding FW makes me kinda sad. If ISK is all we care about why don't we just go run incursions?
Karah Serrigan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-08-11 23:52:10 UTC
Koujjo Dian wrote:
Karah Serrigan wrote:
Koujjo Dian wrote:
ISK, ISK, ISK and cashing out. That's all anyone is ever concerned about. Feel like I've walked into a Chinese gold farmer sub section of the forums. I'll be glad when CCP does the next round of FW changes and maybe FW will be about fighting for something instead of lining our wallets.

What else is there to talk about?
Breaking news, a huge fight broke out between the amarr and minmatar militias on the kamela gate in sosala . It looks like amarr are winning by having killed 3 rifters already and only losing 1 punisher, but minmatar brought reinforcements in form of 3 thrashers. The battle is raging on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Just seems to me making ISK should be the means to a goal and not the goal itself. The system is to blame and not necessarily the players, but the way ISK seems to dominate any conversation regarding FW makes kinda sad. If ISK is all we care about why don't we just go run incursions?


Incursions got nerfed to death. FW is good isk for now. The people who are doing fw for isk are not the people who are doing fw for PvP. But you wont see people who are doing FW for PvP posting about how they killed 3 frigates here.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#18 - 2012-08-11 23:59:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Karah Serrigan wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
T4 is having a summer house in the Hamptons rich
T5 is Mr. Burns rich

t4 is average money. You can get the same rate from highsec missioning. Plexing on your own in a quiet system gives only a bit more LP/h but the obvious advantage is that you only need a merlin and can AFK, but really the ISK isnt as good as people think.
T5 or bust.


Im pretty sure that i stand to make well 6/7 times the isk/hour on gallente tier 4 than anyone does doing high sec lvl 4's.

Even if i were to sell up right now

200k lp per 2.5 hours, so every 7.5 hours = 600k @ 75k per dominix thats 8 dni.

8 dni - cost of basic hulls and chips = (400m x 8 = 3.2bn) - (90 x 8 = 720m) = 2.48bn

2.48bn / 7.5 hours = 330m isk per hour.

As for the whole 'its not about isk' thing. Ive spent close to 20bn isk over the last few weeks on PVP assets. If you dont have the isk, you can buy the ships.

On a side note, isk for gallente at tier 4 > amarr at tier 4 by quite some way :p
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#19 - 2012-08-12 00:03:15 UTC
Koujjo Dian wrote:
Karah Serrigan wrote:
Koujjo Dian wrote:
ISK, ISK, ISK and cashing out. That's all anyone is ever concerned about. Feel like I've walked into a Chinese gold farmer sub section of the forums. I'll be glad when CCP does the next round of FW changes and maybe FW will be about fighting for something instead of lining our wallets.

What else is there to talk about?
Breaking news, a huge fight broke out between the amarr and minmatar militias on the kamela gate in sosala . It looks like amarr are winning by having killed 3 rifters already and only losing 1 punisher, but minmatar brought reinforcements in form of 3 thrashers. The battle is raging on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Just seems to me making ISK should be the means to a goal and not the goal itself. The system is to blame and not necessarily the players, but the way ISK seems to dominate any conversation regarding FW makes me kinda sad. If ISK is all we care about why don't we just go run incursions?


There's this saying;

"Enough is never enough"

For many players, they believe they can never make enough. Lots of players in all factions just want to horde as much isk as possible. Others would rather log on and fight. To each their own.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Dan Carter Murray
#20 - 2012-08-12 00:12:40 UTC
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