Ships & Modules

hey

Should container's be update following the patch ? I mean a Tech 1 mining barge can hold nearly as much as a Giant Secure Container, so they are becoming a bit pointless.

I know that the mining Frigates which will come out in the Winter will mean people might use them again, but people would say it depends on how many mining laser's, max yield, cargo space ect.

Just don't want some thing that used to be so helpful to people to become thing that not useful to people at all ...like defender missiles were before they got a bit "better"

T1 mining barges can, IIRC, hold twice what a GSC can at a minimum. GSCs are, at least now, more for people who are mining with combat ships and those who will be mining with the upcoming ORE frigate and any subsequent ORE ships of "standard" hull configurations. Jet cans are fine as-is as well.

I'm guessing you never looted/salvaged entire missions, in a destroyer, with an eye towards keeping everything before the noctis came out. You rather had to tow jet cans behind your ship in those situations. There are other scenarios where the "jet it now, haul it later" style of dealing with loot comes into play as well.

For that matter it would surprise me if PvP'ers haven't made use of them for things ranging from storing "acquired" goodies until a better hauling ship can take them away to ammo/charge repositories for those times when you just don't want to have someone sitting around in an industrial instead of fighting.



It's not all that immersion-breaking when you take two things into account.
#1 We can already pack 13 gallon containers into a cubic inch or two of volume.
#2 Planck generators enable many standard cargo containers to hold approximately 30% more volume than what they occupy.

Combine said planck generators with the 300th century equivalent of Hefty bags for starships and it's not all that immersion-breaking at all.

Now if you want to complain about something destroying your willing suspension of disbelief complain about how jet cans hold more volume than a rifter takes up but they're the same in-space size as more standard cans and hold far, far less volume. The problem part here to me is that jet cans either don't swell up enough or have planck generators significantly more powerful than anything else available to players.

The second part of your statement reads as if you're implying that only miners use jet cans.



Unless you can see cross-sections of the cannisters you can't really tell just how thick they actually are. Until you can provide unequivocable proof that they were not meant to be collapsed then collapsing them is within the realm of possibility. Please do note that I don't say probability.



It's also part of the in-game lore. Now how they're created, that's a different matter. No matter how they work, no matter how much space they take up internally or externally, the matter for them has to come from somewhere, and if you keep creating them every few minutes you'll eventually have a sizable amount of mass that, for all intents and purposes, came from nowhere. That is silly.

Even if they're the space-age equivalent of Hefty garbage bags with built-in planck generators you should eventually run out of them if you don't restock, and player ships cannot run out of them. Ever.

Ok then what about a T2 version of Containers, ones which can cloak or something ? lol hell do some thing with them, every thing else in game as some sort of works on it since it came out :P

Can you scan them down with combat or core probes ? (I don't know coz i never had to hid a secure container in unfriendly space)

Just be careful you aren't scanned down while refilling those middle-of-nowhere containers...


More space at the expense of speed? That sounds awfully similar in execution to plain old cargo expanders.

Eh I always figured a jet-can was basically a collapsible space-cardboard box.