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Mining ship role bonus?
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Malsavias Toralen
lolpercorp
#1 - 2012-08-11 09:19:16 UTC
Alright so I was checking out the different barges and noticed that Procurers ((200%)) and Retrievers ((50%)) get a role bonus to mining, in theory doesn't this make them mine nearly as much as a hulk? Or am I miss calculating here?

Just a quick question is all.
Jresk
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-08-11 09:52:08 UTC
The hulk gets the Covetor's bonus ontop of an Exhumer special bonus. So it gets double the bonus, but yes, the difference between a Covetor and a Hulk now is not too big, it used to be a far larger difference.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-08-11 09:53:01 UTC
On the other hand, I believe the training required to move between them was reduced?

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Jresk
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-11 09:54:08 UTC
Malsavias Toralen wrote:
Alright so I was checking out the different barges and noticed that Procurers ((200%)) and Retrievers ((50%)) get a role bonus to mining, in theory doesn't this make them mine nearly as much as a hulk? Or am I miss calculating here?

Just a quick question is all.



Sorry for another post, but you also have to remember. The Procurer has a 200% role bonus, but can only fit one laser. So un-optimized cycles will severely impact you, the Retriever can fit 2 lasers, but once again, still will be impacted by poor laser optimization, where as the hulk and covetor have a bit more room to play with 3 lasers each.
Jresk
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-08-11 09:55:05 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
On the other hand, I believe the training required to move between them was reduced?


Yes, you can fly any mining barge upon training mining barge I. Which is nice considering the Covetor for carebear miners was kind of silly since it took 2 less days of training than a hulk to pilot so was often overlooked.
Dave stark
#6 - 2012-08-11 10:06:18 UTC
Malsavias Toralen wrote:
Alright so I was checking out the different barges and noticed that Procurers ((200%)) and Retrievers ((50%)) get a role bonus to mining, in theory doesn't this make them mine nearly as much as a hulk?


yes, that's the point of it.
Zhu Khan
Khanid Arbitrage Incorporated
#7 - 2012-08-11 14:30:11 UTC
I actually have a related question relative to ice mining. Do the procurer/skiff and retriever/mackinaw role bonus come into play here as well? Is it represented through a reduction in cycle time or something?
Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
#8 - 2012-08-11 17:34:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Traedar
Zhu Khan wrote:
I actually have a related question relative to ice mining. Do the procurer/skiff and retriever/mackinaw role bonus come into play here as well? Is it represented through a reduction in cycle time or something?


Yes they get reductions in ice mining cycle time so that their 1 and 2 ice harvesters match the base output of the Covetor hull's 3. In other words, before skills the Procurer's 1 Ice harvester will have 3 cycles for each Covetor cycle ( with 3 harvesters).
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#9 - 2012-08-11 19:18:21 UTC
For what its worth, dont forget to take into account rock management. If I get distracted surfing reddit and miss turning off my laser mid cycle it doesnt hurt me as much in the Hulk. When you are running only 2 highly buffed lasers letting one run half a cycle pulling in nothing is more impactful. So you need to have better roid management when you run 2 lasers compared to 3.