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Miner Haters... why?
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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
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#21 - 2012-08-11 03:29:08 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
I love miners.

I hate whiny carebears who expect CCP to fix everything for them to remove risk even though mechanics already exist to let the player do this.

I wonder how many "miners" that leaves?

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#22 - 2012-08-11 03:31:15 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
I love miners.

I hate whiny carebears who expect CCP to fix everything for them to remove risk even though mechanics already exist to let the player do this.

I wonder how many "miners" that leaves?

A few. Never tried counting.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#23 - 2012-08-11 03:45:36 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
I love miners.

I hate whiny carebears who expect CCP to fix everything for them to remove risk even though mechanics already exist to let the player do this.

I wonder how many "miners" that leaves?

A few. Never tried counting.

Hm, mechanics to remove risk.. you referring to local here?

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Vu Ma'ak
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-08-11 03:51:35 UTC
Thanks for all the answers so quickly, everyone. I guess I thought EVE was more of a mental game where there was more intelligence and thinking people than other MMORPGs. I guess every game is a microcosm of the real world in many ways.

I can also see how doing one thing can be boring, and the need to expand your knowledge and gameplay is important to most. It's a good lesson to start out... I'll try experience all of EVE and make choices based on what I like and the things I am able to do well.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#25 - 2012-08-11 03:55:06 UTC
Vu Ma'ak wrote:
I can also see how doing one thing can be boring, and the need to expand your knowledge and gameplay is important to most. It's a good lesson to start out... I'll try experience all of EVE and make choices based on what I like and the things I am able to do well.

...

Big smile Make sure you're having fun in EVE.

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Spy 21
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-08-11 05:54:37 UTC
James 315 wrote:
I have a better question: Why do so many miners hate the gankers, can-flippers, pirates, and others who bring them excitement and emergent gameplay that only EVE can provide?
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Hehah... so we need to thank that mugger for bringing us more excitement than a normal walk in the park would give :)

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Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#27 - 2012-08-11 06:01:06 UTC
Vu Ma'ak wrote:
I'm new to the game, so please forgive me if this is a stupid question... but why are there so many haters toward miners out there? Don't miners provide a valuable service to the EVE community, creating the basic building blocks of the ships, weapons, etc. etc. that power every aspect of the game?

I see so many people complaining about miners with the new version. I just started recently, so I don't understand it all... but it makes me wonder. Maybe I'm missing an important point about the game?

Anyway, why do so many people hate miners? Should I forego a career as a miner because everyone hates them, and instead become a mission runner. I don't have the time to put into being a good PvPer, which is why I was drawn to EVE... you can do things in EVE, well from what I understand, without having EVE be a full time job (of which I already have one).


The primary reason that I've noticed is that miners tend to be 'hands-off' when it comes to PvP, and many pilots think EVE is supposed to be strictly PvP.

Here's a note, miner-haters: we provide the ore that builds your ships, your modules, your rigs....without us, you'd most likely have nothing but your pod to pewpew in (and since a pod has no weapons at all, that would be really boring).

Vu, keep on mining away.
Alexzandvar Douglass
Motiveless Malignity
Deepwater Hooligans
#28 - 2012-08-11 06:03:53 UTC
Miners make something from nothing, so people akin Mining or Afk Mining to isk printing. Prices of ships fluctuate with availability of materials such a minerals, making it so people who make money of ship selling hate lots of miners while people who like to PvP love miners ( to kill and provide new ships ).

Mining is also not all that hard, Pretty much anyone can train it up on the side making Hybrid Corps more common nowadays rather than dedicated PvP or Indy/PvE Corps.
Josef Djugashvilis
#29 - 2012-08-11 06:07:23 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Gotta hate someone


This.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#30 - 2012-08-11 06:09:15 UTC
James 315 wrote:
I have a better question: Why do so many miners hate the gankers, can-flippers, pirates, and others who bring them excitement and emergent gameplay that only EVE can provide?

Vu Ma'ak wrote:
Should I forego a career as a miner because everyone hates them, and instead become a mission runner.

That's not a bad idea. It will be a better training route toward the PvP you'll need to get to keep the game interesting.


Once again, James 315 and his strange obsession with miners.

A love that dare not speak its name?

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Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#31 - 2012-08-11 06:24:27 UTC
James 315 wrote:
I have a better question: Why do so many miners hate the gankers, can-flippers, pirates, and others who bring them excitement and emergent gameplay that only EVE can provide?

Vu Ma'ak wrote:
Should I forego a career as a miner because everyone hates them, and instead become a mission runner.

That's not a bad idea. It will be a better training route toward the PvP you'll need to get to keep the game interesting.


I like how being a douche is 'bringing emergent gameplay' when discussed on the forums. Yes douchery is part of the game but stop cloaking it in some sort of heroic martyrdom.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#32 - 2012-08-11 06:26:23 UTC
Vu Ma'ak wrote:
Anyway, why do so many people hate miners?


We are an easy target in the same way that feudal lords **** the **** outta farmers. They know that miners don't like to fight back and they take advantage.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#33 - 2012-08-11 07:07:55 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Vu Ma'ak wrote:
Anyway, why do so many people hate miners?


We are an easy target in the same way that feudal lords **** the **** outta farmers. They know that miners don't like to fight back and they take advantage.


The medieval (or eariler) mentality is quickly explained:

- alpha male A will whack everybody with a club. Those "everybody" are henceforth considered inferior, dumb, bad, to hate and crush.

- bigger alpha male B comes in and clubs alpha male A.

- alpha male A "respects" alpha male B. Both hate everybody else and consider them inferior, dumb etc. etc.


It's really this Neanderthal simple.

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Dave stark
#34 - 2012-08-11 08:16:55 UTC
nobody hates miners.

people hate stupid people.

due to the recent changes all the stupid miners have come out of the woodwork. because they are stupid, people hate them. it has nothing to do with the fact that they're miners.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#35 - 2012-08-11 08:19:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
It's really this Neanderthal simple.


...and then alpha female comes along to rule the universe! Lol

Sorry... couldn't resist. Blink

EDIT: I'm a miner, and I don't feel hated...

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Frying Doom
#36 - 2012-08-11 08:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Shizuken wrote:
Vu Ma'ak wrote:
Anyway, why do so many people hate miners?


We are an easy target in the same way that feudal lords **** the **** outta farmers. They know that miners don't like to fight back and they take advantage.

Speak for your self peasant.

You have to love the Caste system Smile

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Pilna Vcelka
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-08-11 08:31:02 UTC
People hate miners because their e-peens are tiny and they are hoping to make a great internet tough guy career.

PvP as in ship versus ship is considered the "uber leet best of EVE" by the simple minded . Which is funny, because EVE ship versus ship is quite dumb and simplistic, while industry and marketing is what takes some serious thinking and mental capacity (opposed to F1 F2 F3 peeveepee).

The more time you dwell in EVE the more you will discover that the so called "die hard ship PvPers" are usually the youngest, the dumbest and the most insecure and whiny sort of players in the game. If you like to team up with somewhat grown up and mentally stronger people, you should go with PvE / industrial corps.
Brorr Liason
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#38 - 2012-08-11 08:42:58 UTC
While a lot of these view points are correct any way you look at them, the 'hate' was just a justification in the gankers minds to make them feel a little more humane while blowing up the game's decently expensive yet easily explodeable killboard padding item.



In the back of our minds, we secretly love all miners so we can spend less ISK in the long run on our fleet of ships. But shhhh, don't tell anyone.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#39 - 2012-08-11 08:47:40 UTC
Brorr Liason wrote:
In the back of our minds, we secretly love all miners so we can spend less ISK in the long run on our fleet of ships. But shhhh, don't tell anyone.


We know deary, we know... Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#40 - 2012-08-11 08:50:20 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Brorr Liason wrote:
In the back of our minds, we secretly love all miners so we can spend less ISK in the long run on our fleet of ships. But shhhh, don't tell anyone.


We know deary, we know... Blink



Gawddamn Miners. thinking they are special.

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