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Recent TVP Drama

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Keith Planck
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#1 - 2012-08-11 04:05:42 UTC

announcement
From: DaiseyCutter
Sent: 2012.08.10 20:32
To:


Fc Team:

I regret to inform you that we have removed Mr. Wacko and Krany from our channels.

This pains me greatly as I personally like both people and have known Krany for what seems forever but we feel they have both become poisonous to the community and must be given some time to decide if they want to be here or not.

After multiple attempts to petition ccp for ownership of The Valhalla Project, Mr. Wacko and Krany have been attempting to drive wedges between different members of leadership and b/t leadership and the FCs. They have openly shared plans with other communities to tear TVP apart and rebuild their own community. Sadly both now seem to have also lost the ability for civil discourse. They have many interesting ideas, many of which should be considered but instead of patiently proposing them in a civil manner they have resorted to bullying, bomb throwing and threats. In contrast, Pro Engineer discussed many of the same ideas with me civilly and we had a lovely chat. Some of which I will send out in an hour or so in a separate mail, others I am waiting for his written summary as there were too many good ones for my brain to retain!

I know not everyone is happy right now and we want to work with everyone to make this a fun place to be. We have grown quickly and have adapted to many changes along the way. We all know TVP must continue to evolve and we want to engage all of you in how we do that. However revolution for personal reasons hurts the pilots of the community most and without them we have nothing. The interests of the community must take precedence over anyone's personal ambitions.

We truly hope that they will want to come back and be a positive force.

sincerely yours,
DC
on behalf of the leadership team

And the list of TVP leadership continues to twindle

I am really surprised at the turn that TVP has taken. It's always had a level head for dealing with greifers and rogue FCs.

I think things are taking a turn for the worst though, after the drama that ensued when it was unable to recognize ISN as a rivel incursion community instead of nullsc griefers, it's all just gone down hill.

I've known Krany since i started incursions, not on a personal level but that undeniably recognizable voice over comms. Krany made fleet commanding an ART, not just a skill. I am dumbfounded that she could say or do anything that would even get her temporarily banned from TVP. Those must have been some insane 'threats' to cause daisy to have to ban one of the greatest and most loyal HQ FCs of all time...

Oh yeah an Wacko...

I just have no idea how TVP could be going downhill SOOO fast...
Sycotic Deninard
Basgerin Pirate
#2 - 2012-08-11 04:42:31 UTC
This is a sad day for TVP as I've flown with both FC's and found them extremely competant and pleasure to fly with. I'm sure when the dust settles we will see them again leading Incursion fleets.

A person that does'nt use his intelligence is no better than an animal that does'nt have any and thus are steaks on the table by choice and consent.

Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#3 - 2012-08-11 06:33:37 UTC
Mr. Wacko has apparently had his account banned fro ELULAEUA violation

O.o dafaq is going on
Keith Planck
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#4 - 2012-08-11 06:41:01 UTC
Sheit I knew that a lot of people were on a first name basis with devs but this is just hinting at something slightly scary...
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#5 - 2012-08-11 07:30:30 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
Sheit I knew that a lot of people were on a first name basis with devs but this is just hinting at something slightly scary...

+1

thhief ghabmoef

Keith Planck
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#6 - 2012-08-11 07:31:56 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
Sheit I knew that a lot of people were on a first name basis with devs but this is just hinting at something slightly scary...

+1


I saw fronkfurter and i got all excited and then this is all i got :(
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#7 - 2012-08-11 07:38:29 UTC
You already said about everything I would have said : /

thhief ghabmoef

Trelgar Akiga
Non scholae sed vitae
#8 - 2012-08-11 10:44:52 UTC
I don't know the politics in question, but I know that I have always enjoyed flying in Wacko's fleets and he seemed to genuinely care about the pilots flying with him. Far too often I see people complaining in TVP that there are not enough fleets running, due to a lack of FCs online to run them.

I personally think removing such a competent FC from being able to perform the service he seems to enjoy doing so much weakens the TVP community greatly.

For some FCs, it's all about the grinding out the ISK. But flying in a Wacko fleet was more fun than grind, and if this is not reversed I will miss it greatly.

There are two sides to every story, and I think each and every one of us that truly care about flying with TVP should seek out both sides before making any judgement calls.

Just my personal feelings on this, for whatever little that is worth.
Safdrof Uta
Echelon Research
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-08-11 21:53:39 UTC
Wacko was one of the most enjoyable FCs to be found in TVP - and I shall miss him dearly.

Krany was always fun to have in your fleet. I shall miss her as well.

That all being said, there isn't much TVP can do if his accounts been banned.
Keith Planck
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#10 - 2012-08-12 05:58:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
BANS FOR EVERYONE! :D


TVPs banned over half their FC list.


**** is getting GEWD


Also just a clarificaiton for the **** that called me a BTL FANBOY LUL

Ammzi was the one that took pictures in ravers fleet, he was also the one that kicked all the logis out

I just told serge it was me so i could get unbanned from everywhere :3


You people need to realize that i literally don't do ANYTHING ever, im a lazy **** ;)
XaNaTo87
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-08-12 06:29:01 UTC
Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for trolling on this topic. LOL!!!!
Keith Planck
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#12 - 2012-08-12 06:31:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!!


"an alt"

Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets...
XaNaTo87
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-08-12 06:41:47 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!!


"an alt"

Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets...


Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll?
Keith Planck
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#14 - 2012-08-12 06:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!!


"an alt"

Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets...


Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll?


my main has been banned since i told serge i was the one that paid to have nomatechs OGB ganked :X
otherwise i would :)


AND SERIOUSLY? your going to say THAT?
whats next, criticizing my killboard?
XaNaTo87
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-08-12 06:46:07 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!!


"an alt"

Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets...


Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll?


my main has been banned since i told serge i was the one that paid to have nomatechs OGB ganked :X
otherwise i would :)


AND SERIOUSLY? your going to say THAT?
whats next, criticizing my killboard?


No, I just think it's funny when someone called your alt out and said it was you, you started talking about yourself (keith) in 3rd person trying to act like it wasn't really you.
Keith Planck
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#16 - 2012-08-12 06:48:14 UTC
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith just got himself (well his alt) banned from TVP for rabble rousingon this topic. LOL!!!!


"an alt"

Also I find it hilarious that people don't realize that this drama for once actually will effect people as there won't actually be any FCs to run fleets...


Why not come into TVP with your main, Keith? Why come on with an alt and troll?


my main has been banned since i told serge i was the one that paid to have nomatechs OGB ganked :X
otherwise i would :)


AND SERIOUSLY? your going to say THAT?
whats next, criticizing my killboard?


No, I just think it's funny when someone called your alt out and said it was you, you started talking about yourself (keith) in 3rd person trying to act like it wasn't really you.


Actually if you knew anything about me, i have ALWAYS talked bout myself in third person when on an alt
I actually got banned from BTL like 4 times for cybering with myself in the public channel with my alts :X
XaNaTo87
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-08-12 06:50:21 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
blah blah blah


Well, I guess everyone enjoys different parts of the game. I guess your enjoyment comes from being a tool. :)
Bulaba Jones
Bad Influence.
#18 - 2012-08-12 06:54:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Bulaba Jones
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Keith Planck
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#19 - 2012-08-12 07:12:28 UTC
XaNaTo87 wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
blah blah blah


Well, I guess everyone enjoys different parts of the game. I guess your enjoyment comes from being a tool. :)


"tool" isn't an accurate insult, try again
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2012-08-12 10:35:59 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
BANS FOR EVERYONE! :D


TVPs banned over half their FC list.


**** is getting GEWD


Also just a clarificaiton for the **** that called me a BTL FANBOY LUL

Ammzi was the one that took pictures in ravers fleet, he was also the one that kicked all the logis out

I just told serge it was me so i could get unbanned from everywhere :3


You people need to realize that i literally don't do ANYTHING ever, im a lazy **** ;)


No, that was fishsticksfred by stating that he had "good boosts" and someone should set him fleet commander.
Lol.
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