Ships & Modules

drf had always built their own supercaps from drone alloys that come from the drone regions. hence the name drf. everyone knows that. except you it seems

I already fly an obelisk on my Industrial pilot second account. Yep, it is slow and i am ok with that. I don't like freighters because you can't use modules, rather than because they are big cows.

To get back on topic, since dreads and titans seem to be difficult option, i would like more feedback on carriers and their use in a small corporation.

Can a carriers survive long enough to be worth flying without the protection of a POS bubble? I doubt it does, but since carriers are a common sight in lowsec i guess there is something about them i don't get yet.

To the OP: Having 3 carrier alts myself, i feel as though i can add something meaningful here...

- Yes. It is entirely possible as well as reasonable (and normal) to gun straight for a capital. While getting the experience first is good, it is quite reasonable for you to gain that experience yourself.

- Being in a good corp is paramount. Nothing is more important than a good corp. You be good to them, and they will be good to you. And when i say good, i mean you be good to them by helping whenever you can... light cynos, salvage for corpies, help out in PVP etc. A rich corp will give you the skillbooks you need to get you into a cap.

- Forget gun caps. Dreads are a lot of fun but their niche is tiny. You just don't fly them in anger much at all. Same goes for titans although they are quite a bit more useful. A titan will be your coffin as getting out of it leaves it open to anyone else who wants to get in it. Carriers on the other hand are the most versatile ships in EVE. Cheap for a cap, easy as anything to replace. If you want to get into an Archon/Nid/Thanatos/Chimera, then your corp would be far more willing to help you early on to get you into one.

- For example, a corp i know allows some people in, and if they have been around for long enough for us to know they are trustworthy, then they will give them cap skillbooks. If the person buys their own carrier BPC kit, then the corp will build it for them for free, and throw in all the fittings and drones they need to use it for PVP or PVE.

So if you want to get into a carrier, look for a good corp (in the recruiting section here) and apply to it.

Yes and Yes.

The only way a dread will hit a battleship is if it is being boosted with tracking links. And you can't boost a sieged dread.

Also they are removing all the drones from dreads.

So yes. POS and Caps are the only targets.

proven it's not orbiting at close, a battleship will actually get quite owned by a dreadnought.
With a 90% web, it's gonna get hit fully even at 5km, and that means volleys in the order of 40k.
With a pair of painters, 50-80% of volley at 20+ km is more than feasible, too.
It's just that.. siege is baaaad.
For around 1b, you can have a moros tank 6k (siege'd), while having 2m ehp and 6k dps.
Too bad that you'll get it dropped and DD's the second you try to use it in a battleship engagement.

Dreads can be used by small alliances to great effect, actually much better effect then larger alliances who will just drop supercarriers, ( i still feel stupid saying "supercarrier" when we all know it should be "moms") as a small alliance trying to get someone else out of their space will have to go for the pos's and usually wont have that many moms on hand.

titans, (as an ex-RAGE person, i agree with Mfume Apocal, there is nothing like seeing a titan your alliance made used against you) are very limited in use for a small alliance good for a few things they probably wont be used that much simply because you cant afford to replace them.


Carriers are the backbone of an alliance big or small. they are used to evac your stuff, resupply/attack/defend pos's, bring stuff to markets and of course rat. had i a carrier at the time, i wouldn't have left stuff in rage space now owned by pl and goons.

a dread would not have been nearly as useful but they would have been when i got back to the space i was living in before i joined Rage. several people had moved into the space i wanted to be in and a dread would have expedited their leaving. in several different instances.

but i generally dont have any use for a dread so i still havent built one. a carrier on the other hand is pretty useful in all non hisec applications.

Alright,

thank you all for all those replies. Very instructive. I gonna go for carrier and train on sisi first untill i get the hang of it and use it on tranquility.

I gonna see with my alliance if a dread would be worth trying out. Our ennemies have a lot of carriers so a dread might be usefull, you never know.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Let me get this straight. The DRF both buys and sells rmt isk.. Seems likely