Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is an awful idea. It's a terrible kludge that solves no current problem. There are plenty of ways to get through or around a gatecamp.

I guess it's easier to push a button and go make a pot of tea than have to think your way out of a blockade, though.

You are correct in that it isn't actually solving a 'problem', there isn't a problem I'm addressing. This is a focusing on improving and adding content relative to the game that can add to the player experience.

Let's say you are apart of a gate camp. You and your fleet members are enjoying their time hanging around and getting any unsuspecting pilots who can easily fall into a trap. This is the nature of gate camps, there is no chance for that lone pilot.
This should also be preserved, because gates and jump bridges would still be a primary method of travel between the systems of Eve.

The two methods of travel currently (Technically Three):

Star Gates - Instant System to System node transfers available to all players for free, but subject to gate camps and must be connecting systems.

Jumping - Instant System to System node transfers available to trained pilots, reliable on Cyno Generators and an additional pilot. This allows pilots the luxury of skipping systems and a reduced number of jumps. Only available for use in 0.0 - 0.4 Space.

Jump Bridges - Corp owned, requires resources and maintenance. Also allows pilots the luxury of skipping systems and a reduced number of jumps. Only available for use in systems less than 0.1 Space.

The concern is how this will affect gate camps. One could think that everyone would rather long warp instead of using a gate, effectively destroying the usefulness of a gate camp. I have spent a lot of time thinking how this can co-exist because I personally enjoy partaking in gate camps.

I was thinking this new method of travel would appeal to as a method of faster travel in high-sec. And a balance would be in place that there would be a risk in using this long-warp in low-sec / null-sec... That risk is pilots can easily detect your movements via some sort of scanning (passive or active) as to deter long-warps around blockades, thus preserving the need to get around gate-camps the traditional way. If you want to long-warp around a blockade, you're essentially hanging up your "HEY HERE I AM" sign. This can prove useful too for players in null-sec in traveling around, but being the nature of a high-profile travel will make a pilot think twice if they should.

It's a mechanic that adds to the risky game play of Eve that I think could be beneficial.

A good series question. All dependent on variables such as capacitor, ship size, hull warp speed... It's range could technically be anything, but should it? Should it have a shorter range? If it were too long, players in High Sec would only need one warp, essentially removing the need to traverse through the many other systems. But at the same time we realize that star-gate travel is faster- instant travel.

What if... the time it would take to travel 20(random number) jumps would be equivalent to the time it would take to Long Warp that same destination. However if you wanted to Long-Warp anything less, you're travel time will be greatly extended compared to the travel time of Star Gates. This will urge players who want to navigate hastily through the systems use star gates.

It adds new content. Directly.

I've asked for the input of others on how to make this coexist, it's an idea discussion thread, not a bash and insult. Your input has nothing to do with it so...

Get out.

In order to deal with something I could see happening, I am curious how you would handle this, then.

Joe Bob has a freighter. It obviously has LOTS of room for fuel, as well as everything else.

What is to stop him from filling enough fuel to reach any system in the game, and hauling effectively anything mobile that can be hauled?
Would this be cost effective to eliminate a jump freighter?
Would he have a progressive time sink to balance this? (Next door system is 15 minutes, but max distance is a week in real time)
With system downtime daily, does this limit the range, or can it be like a skill where the ship progresses to it's destination while you are otherwise offline?

It could possibly be an event like a POS coming out of reinforcement. The freighter should arrive on tuesday of next week, bring the fleet to escort it.

I will be writing up a similar star drive/jump idea. It is not all too different than what you wrote up, but I will add a link to this thread nonetheless.

I for one always wished there would be multiple FTL methods, preferably those we've seen and dreamed of in various Scifi stories/shows.

Rather unrelated, but I do not like how the warp mechanics are in this game. The warping itself is cool, but it is too easy to get away due to the just align and hit the OH-SHIII* warp button. Imo, hitting warp button should feature those x seconds actually needed for the 0m/s -> warp.
Many "pvp fleet fights" are more like like "fleet pussies vs pussies" due to aligning and getting away just that easily.

What about capacitor?

How much cap would you need to travel 316200AU (5ly).
Example for Tengu:
warpCapacitorNeed 8.13e-07 (The power cost to warp per one kg per AU)
mass 14210000 kg

cap needed = warpCapacitorNeed * mass * disstance * ~0,621 (lvl5 warp drive skill) = ~ 130906,730 GL

lets say Tengu has 2842 GJ, this means he need to make 46+ "warp jumps" (5ly) using full cap, which is not possible.

Or, i'm wrong?

I like that idea, warmup time (time based on cap needed) in star magnetosphere to overload cap to needed level and then one long warp, interrupting overloading cap process by move/activating modules/whatever requires starting that process again.