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CCP stock to be publicly traded on the stock market?

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-08-10 13:50:09 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
The full quote from the article

"Reid says the funding will allow CCP to prepare for an IPO. The company doesn’t have any immediate plans to go public, but he says the money “allows us is to do some of the things you need to do for IPO preparedness,” such as building greater redundancy into its computer systems, so that it’s ready to go public when and if the time is right."

So not going public now, but maybe at some time in the future.

Can you imagine the tax and legal issues with "PLEX for stock"? We'll never see that!


But it would be a new frontier in gaming that they could explore! Don't you want to penetrate into the inner folds of that moist, warm, frontier of gaming?

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#22 - 2012-08-10 13:53:26 UTC
Id just like to get some stock so I can get the quarterly shareholder's report. That would be icky enough for me.

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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2012-08-10 13:56:47 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
what do you mean we have to put out quarterly reports!?



"Well this quarter, 75 trillion isk in Tritanium was traded in the market hubs in Jita and Amarr; 800 Freighters have been destroyed while GoonSwarm have moved into the Delve system...."

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2012-08-10 14:04:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Eugene Kerner
cough
Sony being able to get a good part of the shares
cough

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#25 - 2012-08-10 14:07:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I know I am not alone in this, but I would love to get my hands on CCP's books.
66M in annual revenue, and they just had an additional infusion of 20M in convertible bonds.

What rate are they paying on those bonds?
What percentage of the share base will that 20M buy if they are all converted?
Why did they do this? Are they that strapped for cash that they need 20 M to promote Dust and build up internal infrastructure?

So they went to institutional investors. Now the question is, are they banks, or just some private investment houses?
Well, there's this, this and this, for starters…


How did you find this info?
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#26 - 2012-08-10 14:08:40 UTC
i remember asking blizzard a question and they responded something along the lines of...


"we cant say that because of our shareholders...."



yea, thats why u have no games left on my computer.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#27 - 2012-08-10 14:09:36 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
How did you find this info?
…oh, I have an entire bookmarks folder full of them since last summer, when people started digging up all kinds of things to try to make sense of CCP's behaviour. P
Bloutok
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-08-10 14:11:48 UTC
The thing that is bugging me about such news is that i infer that CCP ran out of money in a more serious fashion then was already known.

Dust better work like nothing before.
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#29 - 2012-08-10 14:13:33 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
How did you find this info?
…oh, I have an entire bookmarks folder full of them since last summer, when people started digging up all kinds of things to try to make sense of CCP's behaviour. P


You still got the pages for the russian mafia they siphon money into?


:)
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#30 - 2012-08-10 14:30:34 UTC
Bonds were issued for the money, how does this translate to going public? In a time where going public is more hassle than its worth in most cases at CCPs scale, im curious as to why? To support advertising only?

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Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#31 - 2012-08-10 14:35:49 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
Bonds were issued for the money, how does this translate to going public? In a time where going public is more hassle than its worth in most cases at CCPs scale, im curious as to why? To support advertising only?


i dont think they should go public.


but they should also stop laundering their money.....

since they got rid of the ccp laundry outpost...
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
#32 - 2012-08-10 15:51:46 UTC
"We have no current plans to implement Micro-transactions as of this time"

Tick-Tock, Aurum.

"We have no current plans to nerf your Machariel. The size of the Machariel is iconic to it and one of it's defining characteristics that players identify with it."

Tick-Tock, 30%~ smaller.

Honeslty, CCP is very good at not having plans. It shows.

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Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#33 - 2012-08-10 15:53:18 UTC
Start investing in tin foil companies , it's going to sell out fast by the looks of this thread. Roll

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#34 - 2012-08-10 15:55:02 UTC
I personally don't care how they run their company. If hellmar wants a new chair and wants to borrow a few mill for it, let it be.

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2012-08-10 16:42:30 UTC
Shares for PLEX! Just kidding Big smile


Moved from General Discussion.


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Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-08-10 16:53:20 UTC
The time to raise money is when you don't need it. Then you're raising money from a position of strength. Anyone with experience in capital markets knows that the shorter the runway, the stiffer the terms.

It's likely CCP is just building a war chest. One thing that can be said about CCP, is that they are very ambitious creatively. Some of those ambitions don't pan out due to poor execution or planning, but they never stop thinking big. It is the one redeeming thing about enduring bad changes to the gaming experience. In most cases, you know they are trying to reach for something better.

Anyway, this is sort of a non-event. Companies do this sort of thing regularly.

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-08-10 17:09:04 UTC
I kinda like the idea of buying ccp. sad that I am not just space poor , but also real life poor :(

please don't go public Hillmar. big big mistake.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-08-10 17:09:57 UTC
I kinda like the idea of buying ccp. sad that I am not just space poor , but also real life poor :(

please don't go public Hillmar. big big mistake.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#39 - 2012-08-10 17:10:53 UTC  |  Edited by: PinkKnife
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
The time to raise money is when you don't need it. Then you're raising money from a position of strength. Anyone with experience in capital markets knows that the shorter the runway, the stiffer the terms.

It's likely CCP is just building a war chest. One thing that can be said about CCP, is that they are very ambitious creatively. Some of those ambitions don't pan out due to poor execution or planning, but they never stop thinking big. It is the one redeeming thing about enduring bad changes to the gaming experience. In most cases, you know they are trying to reach for something better.

Anyway, this is sort of a non-event. Companies do this sort of thing regularly.

QFT

CCP has a wide variety of reasons to be borrowing cash. Especially at or near the launch of a huge new project, why use your own money when you can use someone elses. And usually for less.

Being based in Iceland they probably have a lot of different legalities involved in going public than in the US. In the event they DO an IPO, expect a large portion (majority share) to be withheld by the company or the CEO so that he remains in control.

Also 66m in annual revenue doesn't mean much without the rest of the balance sheet and income statement to look at.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-08-10 21:33:19 UTC
It is highly likely they are finally looking into a real Disaster Recovery/Backup site for EVE. This is going to be highly capital intensive unless they attempt to partner with one of the large cloud vendors to keep it opex. I would have went with an opex model but maybe they like being in the hardware buying business.

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