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beating "unbeatable tank"

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Dimitri Achasse
Cinaam Inc.
#1 - 2012-08-10 15:18:07 UTC
Hey

A corp mate of mine claims to have a hurricane with an unbeatable tank. Its a passive sheild tank with he thinks around 240-250 hp/s recharge and I've been offered 100M iskies to break it >:)

So i ask for the wisdom of you guys, a ship that i can break this tank, hopefully a good fit. I can fly t1 gallente and minmatar up to battlecruisers.
His tips were lots of dps, a web and a neut.

So ideas would be appreciated Smile
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#2 - 2012-08-10 15:19:06 UTC
Log on his account and self destruct

Not today spaghetti.

Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#3 - 2012-08-10 15:19:10 UTC
Dimitri Achasse wrote:
Hey

A corp mate of mine claims to have a hurricane with an unbeatable tank. Its a passive sheild tank with he thinks around 240-250 hp/s recharge and I've been offered 100M iskies to break it >:)

So i ask for the wisdom of you guys, a ship that i can break this tank, hopefully a good fit. I can fly t1 gallente and minmatar up to battlecruisers.
His tips were lots of dps, a web and a neut.

So ideas would be appreciated Smile


anything that does more than 250 dps?

send me my isk rewa....


NO REWARD?



what is this.... i dont even...?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2012-08-10 15:23:49 UTC
T1 Gallente you say?

Blaster Talos I say.
Dimitri Achasse
Cinaam Inc.
#5 - 2012-08-10 15:24:40 UTC
don't jump to conclusions, odds are there is a rewardBlink


some fits would be nice :)
Shukuzen Kiraa
F4G Wild Weasel
#6 - 2012-08-10 15:25:19 UTC
Tippia wrote:
T1 Gallente you say?

Blaster Talos I say.


This ^^
Dimitri Achasse
Cinaam Inc.
#7 - 2012-08-10 15:26:49 UTC
can i possibly get a fit?
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#8 - 2012-08-10 15:28:07 UTC
Dimitri Achasse wrote:
don't jump to conclusions, odds are there is a rewardBlink


some fits would be nice :)


talos - 8 heavy neutron blaster

4 magnetic field stabilizers


and kill it.




Do you have to win while he is fighting back?


thats a very good point to make. simply breaking a tank is far easier than having a small 1v1 engagement.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#9 - 2012-08-10 15:28:09 UTC
Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:
Tippia wrote:
T1 Gallente you say?

Blaster Talos I say.


This ^^

Yep.


But any decent BS or t3BC fit would do the trick... if he wasn't shooting back or moving (he wants to just test his shield tank rightSmile).
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#10 - 2012-08-10 15:28:09 UTC
Dimitri Achasse wrote:
A corp mate of mine claims to have a hurricane with an unbeatable tank. Its a passive sheild tank with he thinks around 240-250 hp/s recharge and I've been offered 100M iskies to break it >:)

Your corp sounds like a barrel of laughs.
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#11 - 2012-08-10 15:28:27 UTC
Tippia wrote:
T1 Gallente you say?

Blaster Talos I say.


Hell, you could do it in a Thorax, or a Catalyst for that matter

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Dimitri Achasse
Cinaam Inc.
#12 - 2012-08-10 15:31:21 UTC
he won't be shooting back but will be moving
and yeah corp is hilariously fun
he won't be on for a while so i have time to prepare >:)
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#13 - 2012-08-10 15:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
Blaster Talos, or even blaster Brutix. In both cases you fill the highs with blasters, the mids with speed, web and a scram (forget the neut, not very useful on a passive tanked ship. But you do want that scram.) the lows: mag stabs (for more damage). Others better at this than me can fill in details, but the above is sufficient if he just sits there are lets you shoot.

And a passive regen of 250 dps on a cane is sort of sucky. It can do better.

If he shoots back, you may explode before you break his tank. If thats part of the deal, bring friends.

Edit: He will not be shooting back? Then definitely you want a MWD so you can get close, and a scram to turn off his MWD, and maybe double webs to keep him nice and slow so you can get close up with blasters.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-08-10 15:35:56 UTC
MisterNick wrote:
Hell, you could do it in a Thorax, or a Catalyst for that matter
Yes, but overkill is the best kill.

…and if he really means a shield regen of 250 DPS, beating it with five times that and blowing large chunks out of the shield with each volley so quickly that he won't have time to yell “stop” is the only way to go. Twisted
Toaulk Rokbyter
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-08-10 15:36:33 UTC
Well, you guys assume too much.

If you have a 200hp per second regen, you will never break it with 250dps unless resists are also at zero.

Lets say you attack with explosive damage and his shield resists there are 50% for explosive. Now you need 350dps to break it... and thats if 200hp/s is 33%peak regen... god forbid 200hp/s is standard regen at base sheilds.

No, this is by no means unbreakable. A well fit Myrm can put out 950dps with proper skills....

No tank is un-breakable. Some are just more challenging than others....

Also, don't be upset that people aren't sharing their fits for this... I don't share my solo or even my fleet fits.... otherwise my enemy knows what to expect... and thats never good.

Alara IonStorm
#16 - 2012-08-10 15:37:17 UTC
If he is shooting back you can use an Active Tank Duel Cap Booster / Duel Rep Myrm with a Neuts. Once you shut down his Invulns he is toast. Even if he doesn't have Invulns you should still be able to beat provided your DPS SP isn't terrible.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-08-10 15:39:14 UTC
Goremageddon Box wrote:
talos - 8 heavy neutron blaster

4 magnetic field stabilizers


be sure to fit a ladar jammer (unbonused, who cares) and a scram so that he can't coward away

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Dimitri Achasse
Cinaam Inc.
#18 - 2012-08-10 15:39:22 UTC
hmmm i like >:)
overkill sounds very nice
you sir are a genius
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#19 - 2012-08-10 15:39:52 UTC
Toaulk Rokbyter wrote:
Well, you guys assume too much.

If you have a 200hp per second regen, you will never break it with 250dps unless resists are also at zero.

Lets say you attack with explosive damage and his shield resists there are 50% for explosive. Now you need 350dps to break it... and thats if 200hp/s is 33%peak regen... god forbid 200hp/s is standard regen at base sheilds.

No, this is by no means unbreakable. A well fit Myrm can put out 950dps with proper skills....

No tank is un-breakable. Some are just more challenging than others....

Also, don't be upset that people aren't sharing their fits for this... I don't share my solo or even my fleet fits.... otherwise my enemy knows what to expect... and thats never good.


The fitting tools all report regen rates that include the effects of resistance. But, that's no guarantee that the 250 number includes resists.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#20 - 2012-08-10 15:43:45 UTC
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
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Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Neutron Blaster Cannon II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II
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Neutron Blaster Cannon II
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Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


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Replace those shields with dual webs since he's not fighting back and bring him to a crawl. Load Void and **** him with a 1300 dps volley.

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