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Friday Special: Replace all NPC bounties with lootable tags

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pussnheels
Viziam
#21 - 2012-08-10 11:53:59 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
None of you who agreed can t give a solid answer on why people shouldn t be allowed to play this game semi AFK

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2012-08-10 11:56:24 UTC
Perhaps you can seek the answer via the question- why should people play this game at the keyboard?



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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-08-10 11:57:40 UTC
Roime wrote:
Yes,

it's time to curbstomp AFK activities, inflation, botting and blitzing, and expose the revenue streams to PVP. Replace all NPC bounties with lootable tags, that can be sold to NPC buy orders. Same goes to LP, no automatic, ungankable payouts anymore anywhere in New Eden.

Combine this with rat AI revamp and the removal of L4s from hisec, and EVE economy is back on track again.

Have a nice weekend!


this is an awesome idea!

in fact, the only source of ISK should be insurance payouts.

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#24 - 2012-08-10 12:00:02 UTC
gobbybobby wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:
No



why not? Explain?


You want to replace all bounties with NPC tags that need to be looted. Do you have any idea how long it takes to loot a field on a slow battleship? With one wreck 90km away, flying at 25O, that's 6 minutes just to fly to ONE wreck. And you want to keep people from going AFK?


"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#25 - 2012-08-10 12:03:40 UTC
Maybe you should fit officer salvagers on that CNR?

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Anslo
Scope Works
#26 - 2012-08-10 12:24:20 UTC
No. Go back to PvP while I make my billions in safety.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#27 - 2012-08-10 12:27:47 UTC
I envy your L4 billions. I really do! I wish I could have as much fun and ISK in EVE.

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Xaeltis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-08-10 12:43:20 UTC
You sound mad.
Anslo
Scope Works
#29 - 2012-08-10 12:46:35 UTC
Roime wrote:
I envy your L4 billions. I really do! I wish I could have as much fun and ISK in EVE.


Stop PvPing and you will.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#30 - 2012-08-10 12:50:35 UTC
Roime wrote:
TotalRapeage wrote:

Drone regions didn't have bounties until just recently and it was still bots galore out there. How's your suggestion propose to handle all the jita station traders who make isk risk free?


You are correct, the bounty removal by itself (like any other single measure) is not enough to curb botting, and it's not likely that bots can ever be removed from computer games in general. But changes to rat AI along with the requirement to haul your "proof of kills" to the markets could help a bit.

I'd also like to see more alternatives to ratting-based income making in EVE.

As what comes to trading, I've lost billions on the markets, way more than in PVE ever.


So, you want to hammer the hell out of PVE income generation, and you just stated that trading is not the easy mode of generation ISK.

Precisely then, how do YOU make your ISK to fund your PvP activities and such.
Anslo
Scope Works
#31 - 2012-08-10 12:52:52 UTC
Probably ransoms and scummy pirate methods.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-08-10 13:00:32 UTC
Definately no, and leave L4 missions in high-sec.


If I'm afk I'm always in a station, but looting tag, that would just be more crap to loot.





Sounds to me all you're really trying to do is make high-sec crappy enough that nobody wants to be there. Except as the game is that won't happen, if high-sec gets too crappy they won't move to low-sec or 0.0 they'll just leave the game.
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-08-10 13:03:13 UTC
Urgg Boolean wrote:
No. A better idea is to shift the in-game currency to Rings of Jordan ... Or maybe it's better to leave the game alone for a while.



WTS Rifter 1 HR!

James315 for CSM 8!
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-08-10 13:04:41 UTC
Roime wrote:
Yes,

it's time to curbstomp AFK activities, inflation, botting and blitzing, and expose the revenue streams to PVP. Replace all NPC bounties with lootable tags, that can be sold to NPC buy orders. Same goes to LP, no automatic, ungankable payouts anymore anywhere in New Eden.

Combine this with rat AI revamp and the removal of L4s from hisec, and EVE economy is back on track again.

Have a nice weekend!



Well, at least he didn't preface this moronic crap with a "we" statement.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-08-10 13:10:08 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Stop PvPing and you will.


Okay we'll quit PvPing and you can go find buyers for your deadspace loot, LP store items or ores when nobody is shopping for any of those things because they're not getting blown up.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#36 - 2012-08-10 13:11:12 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


So, you want to hammer the hell out of PVE income generation, and you just stated that trading is not the easy mode of generation ISK.

Precisely then, how do YOU make your ISK to fund your PvP activities and such.


I had to reread my posts, and still can't see where I said I want to hammer the hell out of anything? I'd like to decrease the ATM-like nature of current PVE, not decrease the actual profits. About trading I only echoed Richard's statement that trading is hardly risk-free.

And since you asked, by long-term investments using capital I accumulated during my active trading period(s). I also run a wh PI setup (most of that I feed now to corp wallet to buy ice products). I used to explore a lot but mostly for entertainment, now pretty much the only PVE I do is sleeper sites, and only because I want to give my corp members fun, regular and involving means of income generation, and I use my share to fund my corp's monthly award program.

Guess that answers Anslo's petty trolling as well.

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Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-08-10 13:14:46 UTC
Roime wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
I'd rather have bounties and LP. Having to loot every wreck for tags in order to make an income is boring as ****.


Salvaging is about 400% more interesting than shooting rats.

People in wormholes already loot & salvage everything, and never complain- because having your income in a tangible form, exposed to hostiles actually adds interesting gameplay.



Well it used to be when decent loot would occasionally drop ....

These days ....

Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#38 - 2012-08-10 13:21:02 UTC
I agree with this, but leave L4s in high-sec; ninja-looting is a lot of fun and would be even more fun under this proposal.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-08-10 13:22:19 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
I agree with this, but leave L4s in high-sec; ninja-looting is a lot of fun and would be even more fun under this proposal.




And that's probably the best reason for leaving it as it is.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#40 - 2012-08-10 13:24:20 UTC
Sabrina Solette wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
I agree with this, but leave L4s in high-sec; ninja-looting is a lot of fun and would be even more fun under this proposal.

And that's probably the best reason for leaving it as it is.

Please explain.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.