Ships & Modules

Tooltips are great for LEARNING a product's UI.

However if you can't disable them once you have learned the UI then they WILL drive you batshit mad.

As UI designers you should ALWAYS permit the user to disable any enhancements such as tooltips.

I appreciate you're using the tooltips here to show module info (which is subject to change under some conditions) but you should respect the users right to not see what you consider "awesome"

Put a disable checkbox in please.

Nice to see CCP awake and listening. Loving them tooltips !

Quoting myself from another "tooltip" thread:



Just my 0.2 ISK

It appears to be half fixed. The tooltip now appears in the correct place after alt tabbing but still persists until I put the mouse over another module.

Best idea so far

As suggested by Erlendur, I will state my thoughts:

I think the icons are a bit big, if they could be reduced in size or given the option to remove them all together (for text only), it would reduce the goddiness of the tooltip as it stands now. Thank you.

I think the tactical data of modules etc can have some dedicated part of the UI as said above (and I mentioned earlier in an image linked with it).

It would keep the info in a consistent place, make it feel more like a HUD element, etc.

The major obstacle to that at the moment, imho, is just the whole EVE UI is very window pane oriented, so there is no good place to put it really.


My thinking is that the "Drones window" could become something like this and converted to the "Tactical Panel". Instead of exclusively for drones (and appearing and disappearing with drones), you can make the drone window have a tab for tactical information and then a tab with all your drones (if you have them) in the drone bin for when you want to do the drones as clickable modules. It would be 2 tabs (or more) And you could then position that wherever you wanted to position it.

The Pros of this is you have a UI element that doesn't come and go randomly and you're not adding yet ANOTHER window.

The Cons of this are that you add a bit of complication to a window, and explaining that cleanly so new people understand what is going on would be important and to know where to look for the information.


You guys are doing a great job on this, thanks for the fast updates and I do like this a lot lot better overall, especially the tooltip distance from the module is cleaner.

Re: the OP. I don't see why you can't have delayable module tooltips without impacting the rest. You state all tooltips would become delayed if any did, but surely you can just make a new subclass of tooltip for the modules, and put the delayable code in/for them. You're willing to add configurable delayableness but not derive a 2nd type of dialog that is/isn't delayable?

Another way around would be all tooltips are made delayable, all existing ones run off of a setting of 0 delay, and module ones are a type/take a constructor parameter that runs them off of a 2nd setting which ccp/the user can configure.

As much as I like the idea to move the new modules dialog to a dedicate collapsable HUD area, could we have some simpler UI changes first, like being able to reverse the overview alignment so it can fill from bottom, up? You let us move the modules UI, locked targets, selected item dialog, etc to the bottom, and change the sort order of the overview, but this feels half-crippled without having the overview fill upwards with the scrollbar starting&staying bottom-aligned. We still have to move all the way to the top of the overview to select single/nearest things. Or have them at a varying position at the bottom of the overview where they might even be hidden and need to be scrolled to.

Instant pop ups worked fine for me. It's now quicker to right click and show info that it is to wait for the pop-up. That's kind of dump

Please allow us to set the delay to 0 asap.

Hey folks - I love the tool tips. The initial 1 second delay is great.

Sure, give folks further customisability if they want to be OCD about it, but I think we are near the defaut which 98% of folks would just take as-is and get on with their lives.

However, I noticed that once I hold for a second and get that great info, I want to then see what the other module tooltips show. By hovering for that initial second, I am mentally wanting to be in 'tooltip mode' and I want to see tool tip info on all modules quickly.

Especially if in combat, seconds are critical. Having to wait for ~each individual module~ to wait out the 1 sec timer is I think an issue.

How about, once that first 1 second pause is done and the tooltip pops up, it should then open immediately over ~all the modules~ that I hover over, until the mouse is taken away from the module area.

Does that make sense? I'm really forgetful, especially in fast combat situations. I want to remind myself of my range and ammo, then scram range, then web range, all quickly before I land on grid, or something. I want to do all that in one swoop across all those relevant modules, as a reassuring reminder of my fit. So I'd wait out the initial 1 second delay and then the tool tip pops up immediately on each module until moved away.

Otherwise it is:

-wait 1 sec- Weapons Info
-wait 1 sec- Scram info
-wait 1 sec- Web info etc

so at least 3+ seconds in total, which in urgent combat situations when you are warping onto grid to someone's www's to get tackle is... nervewracking :-D

Anyway just my 0.02 ISK