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Dear CCP - EvE-sourced dollars and potential Dust failcascade

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Revajin
Doomheim
#81 - 2012-08-10 12:22:11 UTC
Denidil wrote:
So CCP, you've used our subscription money to siphon away to create dust.


Stopped reading right there lol. Once you give money away its no longer yours. A used PS3 is pretty cheap bro.
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2012-08-10 12:33:45 UTC
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Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-08-10 12:38:09 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
I have ton of console friends foaming at the mouth to play DUST. Your entire post is, well... bullshit.


Not for PC users.

Tal


I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#84 - 2012-08-10 12:43:28 UTC
I bought a PS3 just to play DUST.

I'm a masochist.

Not today spaghetti.
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-08-10 12:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabrina Solette
Sarik Olecar wrote:

I mean seriously guys, if you thought FPS's were a blast would you be playing EVE?




Yes, plenty of people play more than 1 style of game.


Would serious FPS players consider playing an FPS attached to an MMO? Who knows, but I bet the people that play more than 1 style may consider it.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#86 - 2012-08-10 12:50:16 UTC
Shamubar wrote:
dust is something i have no intentions to play or get involved with at the moment even though i have a ps3


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-13-an-entire-top-end-dust-514-load-out-costs-around-USD0-24-in-real-money

pretty much paying for each life and with how quick deaths can rack up in a FPS we can all see where this is going



The Carrier I'm logged out in is worth about 1 bill, plus another half a bill in fittings, plus another 2.5 bill in ships in the bay That's about $50 worth of PLEX.

Your point?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#87 - 2012-08-10 12:57:39 UTC
I have a PS3. Have had a PS3 since they first came out. I still play my PS2 some times. But! I have never played a game that cost me more than the original $59.99. Hell I have never even logged onto PSN. I play PS3 when I need a break from the internet asshats. I know those COD types play on the net and are probably your target audience, but how many of them are going to pay for ammo? How many of them even have a debit card or whatever?

People keep saying DUST is F2P. Does that mean it's not going to cost $59.99 like every other console game? If it does than it's not F2P.

Is DUST going to have a single player offline mode? If so you get $60 from me. If not you can put me down for $0

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black cree
Utopian Research I.E.L.
#88 - 2012-08-10 12:58:48 UTC
What if eve is ported to ps4 ?
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#89 - 2012-08-10 13:10:56 UTC
NeoShocker wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
I hope Dust does well, and plan to play myself. However, I think PS3 only was a bad call too...it also should have been on the Xbox...lol...all my console FPS friends are on Xbox...I'll miss them :(

It was planned for both consoles, but microsoft happened. So it wasnt ccp's call. Even valve have something against microsoft because valve wants to put free stuff and updates, but ms says no, must charge.



CCP should stop microsoft support! Everyone should stop microsoft support!

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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#90 - 2012-08-10 13:21:26 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
King Rothgar wrote:
The wisdom of targeting the console market, and specifically PS3 is dubious at best. Additionally, the PS3 is over 6 years old now. People who don't have one aren't going to go get one. Those things are antiques with their 256mb of RAM and 3.2 GHZ single core processor.Roll


Not a single core processor. 8 SPEs and one PPE.

Just shows how much some "PC gamers" know about consoles...


I don't know what any of that means. I do know I like playing games on my PS3 when I'm not playing Eve on my Mac.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#91 - 2012-08-10 13:21:36 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
People keep saying DUST is F2P. Does that mean it's not going to cost $59.99 like every other console game? If it does than it's not F2P.
They've been wavering a bit on that point. In some instances, they've said that it would just be free to download and start playing, in others, that it would be a $10 administration fee to set up the account but you'd get $10 worth of AUR as part of it.

Quote:
Is DUST going to have a single player offline mode? If so you get $60 from me. If not you can put me down for $0
No. I might get an online single(ish)-player mode, though… or at least there was some talk about PvE vs. rogue drones, but that might be squad-based as well for all we know.
Wilhelm Riley
Doomheim
#92 - 2012-08-10 13:27:59 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
I hope Dust does well, and plan to play myself. However, I think PS3 only was a bad call too...it also should have been on the Xbox...lol...all my console FPS friends are on Xbox...I'll miss them :(


Xbox just wasn't an option apparently, Microsoft are too strict for it to have worked.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#93 - 2012-08-10 13:32:31 UTC
I've never owned a console, I hate them. But I'd like to try DUST. I wouldn't even completely rule out that I would buy a used PS3 if I knew I want to play it long-term (partly because a PS3 is also a bluray player and I don't have one currently).

The thing that holds me back is that while I occasionally play old FPS's (UT 3) in single-player mode as a diversion, I'm not very good at it and would probably totally suck when playing against real enemies. And unlike EVE a FPS cannot be learned and mastered by virtue of intelligence, you either suck or you don't What?

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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#94 - 2012-08-10 13:48:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Virgil Travis
Shamubar wrote:
Virgil Travis wrote:
CCP have said they are launching DUST on PS3.

I bolded & underlined the important word there.




if you mean it may be out for something else then you are wrong they have stated countless times that it will be a PS3 Exclusive

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-07-dust-514-confirmed-ps3-exclusive




That's fair enough, but they could have a rethink.

Edit: That went a bit pear shaped, quoting fail.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#95 - 2012-08-10 13:51:28 UTC
The lack of PC support was disappointing. I'd have loved to hop into Dust on slow Eve nights.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
El Cid Campeador
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-08-10 14:04:36 UTC
Id love to play the game, to at least test it out. But unfortunately its PS3 exclusive and by no means am I buying a PS3 just for 1 game., which means Planetside 2 will get my time for my FPS for the next couple years... At least CCP will still get my eve sub? :)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-08-10 14:05:22 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
CCP should stop microsoft support! Everyone should stop microsoft support!


I somehow doubt that CCP is going to deploy Linux across their entire cluster, have all of their programmers spend months rewriting code for a new DBMS, spend even more time testing, force their customers (i.e. us) to endure months of TQ being unreliable (not because of Linux, mind you, but because the scale of the switch means that mistakes /will/ be made) all for the sake of making a petty gesture at Microsoft over DUST.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#98 - 2012-08-10 15:42:45 UTC
As stated in the edit - i dropped this post then real life pulled me from the forums.

For the record I hope i am wrong and that Dust bucks the observed player retention trend. I don't hate Dust players - i don't think anyone does. So go to the dust forums and tell them that is a silly assumption. I want Dust to succeed, if it has any lasting power I will bite the bullet and buy a ******* PS3 [i have the money.. it's not an issue]


PS: to those of you assuming I am speaking for a position of ignorance and are like "CCP KNOWS BETTER THAN YOU!!" perhaps you should no make assumptions about people.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#99 - 2012-08-10 15:52:54 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
The fact is there are people out there (including the OP and a few in this thread) that would rather see DUST available on PC only


yes.. because that is exactly what i said.. i totally said it should have been PC only. entirely.

don't put words into my mouth you infernal jackass.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#100 - 2012-08-10 16:13:20 UTC

Herr Hammer Draken wrote:


Oh for crying out loud. You guys are complete dolts. Of course CCP is interested in porting dust for a PC.
But if they have a contract with Sony which I am sure they do then that contract spells out what they can and can not do..


I am aware of that potentially ill advised contract

Forum Harlot wrote:
Get a PS3 and quit this never-ending, relentless whine. Can't afford a PS3? Get a job.


I love people who probably make in a month what I make in a week assume that because I post something that means I don't like something and cannot afford it.

I do have an issue with the security problems inherent in PSN.

Yaaar Smackdaddy wrote:

You speak like an investor. You are not an investor you are a customer. There is a big difference.


I speak like a stakeholder.. slightly different from an investor. All EvE Players are stakeholders because of the interconnection between the games and the potential for negative blowback should Dust fail.

Jake Warbird wrote:
So,DUST is dying too? DAMMNIT!


netcraft confirms, EVERYTHING IS DYING


Shamubar wrote:
what happens with the ps3 becomes outdated replaced?



This argument isn't really a concern

well considering PS3 could play PS2 games.. Xbox 360 could play xbox games... next gen will probable follow suit.

then they can also just tweek the client and launch a native one for the 8th generation with better graphics.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.