EVE General Discussion

Updating the UI to display more complete information that it should have been displaying since Day 1 is of course dumbing down the game, you're absolutely right.



Woah there tiger! It would be a shame if you destroyed your integrity with immature attack comments like that. I don't think you can actually have negative integrity.

This is absurd. The changes CCP have been making as of late have been making things more convenient and accessible. That is not the same thing as "dumbing down the content" or any crap like that. If CCP were to do something like weakening NPC pirates or slashing skill training times, then you might have a reason to get pissy.

Until then, bugger off. >_>

coming from other mmos I thought eve was pretty easy to get into. maybe that is because when I first started gaming there were no tutorials and you learned the game by pressing all the buttons and seeing what they did (or maybe read the manual but who did that?). and the first mmo I played spawned you naked, and you had to go out into the newbie zone and punch stuff to death and hope something dropped. I'm a press all the button and read all the descriptions kinda guy.

in eve I was lucky enough to have a friend give me 500k isk to get started, that was enough for a frigate to start on level 1 missions. I think he might have given me some advice as well, but honestly I remember the basic strategies learned elsewhere, such as kiting, to be very effective in eve. that and rookie help was pretty helpful. plus salvage was worth a good bit back then. I thought I struck a pretty good balance of training support and learning skills. it did get a bit slow when I went from 4/4 to 5/4, but by then I was in a drake running the hell out of level 3 missions, also did weapon upgrades 5 awu 4, a ton of core skills, and got tech 2 drones. I did however completely ignore my missile skills, I had around 700-800k in missiles with missile bombardment 5.

about 2 years back now I ran an alt through the tutorials and they seemed super duper easy, free frigs and even a destroyer!? and that SOE arc, not to mention no learning skills! seems like a great time to be a newb. my experience was a bit tainted as I can read between the lines and know what the tutorial meant, so any little corrections they can make I think are good. a bit more resources and some ideas on how to reasonably fit a ship are good things for newbs. some of it certainly would have helped me out when I first started (good god I'm scared to think of how I fit my first ships).

Wow turned a higher profit when they lost subs last quarter, so whatever math you are using is fail math.

If this ever makes it out of vapour-ware, then EVE may well be obsoloete'ed.

And probably right freaking now, too.

that alone got me

i do believe that EVE should be easier accesible for new players , even if they are WoW refugess, aslong EVE stays as harsh and unforgiving ,
A new player will eventually decide to stay or not but allowing him to take that first hurdle , learning the basic principles and game mechanics in a relative easy and comfortable way will go along way to convince that new player to stay
EvE is pretty much unique we know that and they will learn that and appreciate it aswell
I also play other games online and what i hear in those games when talking about that one special MMO is that people really want to try it but that it was pretty hard to get pass the tutorials

New player who actually stay beyond their tutorial benefit us all and not only CCP

aren't we all "refugees" who came to EVE from other MMOs?
or is it just me?

oh goooood cause I was trying hard to understand what you just said with my very poor english skills

lol sumones been reading rumour sites

WOW is still going strong and has over 14 milllion pre ordered copies of MOP coming including myself

Any fool who thinks wow is dieing is quite clearly just a fanboi of another game

There is nothing wrong with world of warcraft, the pvp is good fun, the mounts are awsum n i enjoy it

moron