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Is upset about a feature change. Demands compensation far above what could be reasonably demanded over assets that it doesn't even actually own. Is pubbie filth.

As the dev response states, noob frigs were never intended to be used as throwaway cynoboats, if it really bothers you that much just buy another Amarr frig, or fit a cargo expander, either way in the immortal words of permaband HTFU.


<< is a pubbie, is probably considered to be filth, doesn't care

Rookie ships are designed to show off the races ship building philosophy. Amarr don't need to store ammunition and thus have smaller holds. Rookie ships are designed for rookies, not cynos. Your entire point of view is self serving. "But now Amarr alts need to put in slightly more effort!" OH NO, QUICK, MAKE ALL THE SHIPS THE SAME!

Nobody cares about your new found hardships because the ship isn't designed for that purpose. I don't hear anyone bitching that scooters can't pull several tons of cargo, why though? They're not designed for it is why. The Amarr rookie ship is designed for new players to derp around in. Stop being an over entitled whinge and ADAPT.

also fyi there really aren't any ships "intended" for lighting cynos other than force recons which aren't really the optimal way to light cynos in every given situation

that song is on eve radio right now!

The post you are referring to is #241 on page 13 of the thread which you are talking about and the changes weren't obvious unless you were paying very very detailed attention.

Look, if I was arguing that it should be changed because I was being inconvenienced by it, then I would agree with your argument. But you are arguing against yourself. You are making that argument, not I.

Right now the only starter race that is any different in abilities from the other is Amarr and the nerf only affects characters who choose Amarr as their starter race. That is pretty much the definition of unbalanced. If you are a new player and rolled Amarr, you would be better off rerolling a different race and just training Amarr ships.

Who says my alt is disposable? Just because one of its uses is to light cynos doesn't mean it is 'disposable' or only used for that reason.

it's called karma, you ******* slaver.

Your alt is neither a new player.

The first post you link to says nothing about cynoing. It is just a base listing of the ship stats.

What you are says with those two references is that everyone should be on the forums 24/7 and hanging off every post and sentence that someone at CCP says. Your inference is rediculious and impractical. This is a large change and should have been detailed in plain language in the dev blog. Not discovered as you dig through some forum thread. The reality is that I have talked to almost no one who knew of the effect of these changes and I sincerely doubt you did either. Sitting there and using search to digg through forums trying to tell someone they should have known somethign that you didn't know is disingenuous at best, and in reality just simply dishonest.

This thread is full of strawmen. So far I have been told that I am only mad because I was inconvenience. That I am upset over "disposable alts". That my alts aren't "new players". Those are all GREAT arguments with one small problem. I never made them. You people are arguing against yourselves. You are literally making up an argument, pretending that it is what I am saying and then writing a wonder sperg aganist the imaginary position you have made for me. I am sure that those doing it are more than stupid enough to believe it.

The issue is one of balance. There is not supposed to be any difference between races when choosing a starting race. There IS that difference now, and only for one race. All the story line explanations and all the other bullshit you people have come up with don't address the very practical matter that I am talking about. You are trying to rationalize something that is legitimately unbalanced. The fact that you have to do so, shows even more clearly, just how unbalanced it is.

I am going to unsub to this thread now. It has been fun, but you guys are just far far to pants on head crazy for me. You can continue to make up points to sperg against if you want. But my IQ can't take taking down at your level anymore.

Cheers.