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Miner tears and the new patch.
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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#201 - 2012-08-10 02:53:29 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
miners aren't crying.

people who don't read patch notes are crying. there's a difference.



This.

Stupid people tears != miner tears
Pipa Porto
#202 - 2012-08-10 03:20:03 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tank Fila wrote:
Oh, I knew about it and planned for it as well. My Hulk will be front and center for Corp Ops, and other Exhumers and or Barges will be used for solo ops. That was just a general feeling about the change that happened. Its all good.

P.S. A Retreiver is cheap enough and should fit a good enough tank that it should not be ganked too often while an Exhumer might still be worth it Big smile


~10k EHP protecting almost 30m ISK worth of droppable items? I'm pretty sure I can gank 10k EHP for less than 15m.

Good luck hoping everyone overlooks that Retriever.

30m worth of stuff on my retreiver?

RFLMAOLOL!
No.


Ah, so you're giving up yet more yield. Well, fair enough.

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-RubyPorto
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#203 - 2012-08-10 03:25:42 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tank Fila wrote:
Oh, I knew about it and planned for it as well. My Hulk will be front and center for Corp Ops, and other Exhumers and or Barges will be used for solo ops. That was just a general feeling about the change that happened. Its all good.

P.S. A Retreiver is cheap enough and should fit a good enough tank that it should not be ganked too often while an Exhumer might still be worth it Big smile


~10k EHP protecting almost 30m ISK worth of droppable items? I'm pretty sure I can gank 10k EHP for less than 15m.

Good luck hoping everyone overlooks that Retriever.

30m worth of stuff on my retreiver?

RFLMAOLOL!
No.


Ah, so you're giving up yet more yield. Well, fair enough.


Uhmmm....

A retreiver doesn't cost anywhere near 30 mill total, ship and fittings.
How are you getting 30 mill out of a ship that doesn't cost near that much, even after it's fit.


You're effectively saying that you're stealing my one leaf of paper and turning it into 30. How are you managing that?

And honestly, I have 2 strips and 2 MLU's fitted to my Ret. Not everyone is a min/ maxer, and not everyone AFK mines. I'm aligned and the second something that isn't a mining ship comes near my belt, I leave.
Pipa Porto
#204 - 2012-08-10 03:45:27 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ah, so you're giving up yet more yield. Well, fair enough.


Uhmmm....

A retreiver doesn't cost anywhere near 30 mill total, ship and fittings.
How are you getting 30 mill out of a ship that doesn't cost near that much, even after it's fit.


You're effectively saying that you're stealing my one leaf of paper and turning it into 30. How are you managing that?

And honestly, I have 2 strips and 2 MLU's fitted to my Ret. Not everyone is a min/ maxer, and not everyone AFK mines. I'm aligned and the second something that isn't a mining ship comes near my belt, I leave.



T2 Strips are 6.5m each
MLUIIs are 2.5m each
An MSE is 2m.

That's 22m in fittings eligible to drop for an average of 11m.

When I said 30, I forgot that medium ACRs actually cost anything.

If you're fitting less than T2 Strips and 3 MLUIIs, you're giving up more yield for safety, and that's just fine. That's how it's supposed to work (though I have to wonder why the retriever and not the Skiff/Procurer).

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-RubyPorto
Herr Hammer Draken
#205 - 2012-08-10 03:54:40 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:


If you're fitting less than T2 Strips and 3 MLUIIs, you're giving up more yield for safety, and that's just fine. That's how it's supposed to work (though I have to wonder why the retriever and not the Skiff/Procurer).


Maybe just to screw with gankers that make isk based assumptions.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#206 - 2012-08-10 04:26:03 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ah, so you're giving up yet more yield. Well, fair enough.


Uhmmm....

A retreiver doesn't cost anywhere near 30 mill total, ship and fittings.
How are you getting 30 mill out of a ship that doesn't cost near that much, even after it's fit.


You're effectively saying that you're stealing my one leaf of paper and turning it into 30. How are you managing that?

And honestly, I have 2 strips and 2 MLU's fitted to my Ret. Not everyone is a min/ maxer, and not everyone AFK mines. I'm aligned and the second something that isn't a mining ship comes near my belt, I leave.



T2 Strips are 6.5m each
MLUIIs are 2.5m each
An MSE is 2m.

That's 22m in fittings eligible to drop for an average of 11m.

When I said 30, I forgot that medium ACRs actually cost anything.

If you're fitting less than T2 Strips and 3 MLUIIs, you're giving up more yield for safety, and that's just fine. That's how it's supposed to work (though I have to wonder why the retriever and not the Skiff/Procurer).


Smaller holds.
My alt doesn't mine to sell, she mines because I can't fill buy orders fast enough to keep up with my production. Seriously, I can just log in and mine whenever I want, for as long as I feel like it. And I don't feel compelled to compete with others over how much I mine in an hour. I do it to relax and just blow time.

Honestly, my ship is only fitted with a couple of strips and couple of MLU's. But I won't even leave her in a belt to take a ****, if I'm not watching her, she's docked. When I am at a belt, I'm aligned and paying attention, and I will warp if anything not a mining ship comes near the belt.
Hypercake Mix
#207 - 2012-08-10 04:44:15 UTC
My Skiff has an AB, Web, and Scram.

What tears?
Pipa Porto
#208 - 2012-08-10 07:01:49 UTC
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:


If you're fitting less than T2 Strips and 3 MLUIIs, you're giving up more yield for safety, and that's just fine. That's how it's supposed to work (though I have to wonder why the retriever and not the Skiff/Procurer).


Maybe just to screw with gankers that make isk based assumptions.


Hi there.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#209 - 2012-08-10 07:25:21 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
but in practice, with roids popping, the simply won't be a difference in yield.
So keep an eye on your rocks.


doesn't matter, the modules don't show you what % complete they are, you have to do it by eye, you will never be 100% accurate.


With a single mining laser, it makes it much easier to keep track of which roid is attached to which mining laser.
So use a timer like this one: http://www.imarvintpa.com/Eve/Mining.php and get nearly 100% timing. Survey Scanners are helpful.

Drox
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#210 - 2012-08-10 07:56:55 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Once again it goes from bears chestbeating and salavating over ganker tears that didn't exist to outrage and true tears.


lol...'I wasn't crying...I...I...I had something caught in my eye!

Seen tears, both sides. Been a tear-slinging fest around here, lately.
Dave Stark
#211 - 2012-08-10 08:01:40 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ah, so you're giving up yet more yield. Well, fair enough.


Uhmmm....

A retreiver doesn't cost anywhere near 30 mill total, ship and fittings.
How are you getting 30 mill out of a ship that doesn't cost near that much, even after it's fit.


You're effectively saying that you're stealing my one leaf of paper and turning it into 30. How are you managing that?

And honestly, I have 2 strips and 2 MLU's fitted to my Ret. Not everyone is a min/ maxer, and not everyone AFK mines. I'm aligned and the second something that isn't a mining ship comes near my belt, I leave.



T2 Strips are 6.5m each
MLUIIs are 2.5m each
An MSE is 2m.

That's 22m in fittings eligible to drop for an average of 11m.

When I said 30, I forgot that medium ACRs actually cost anything.

If you're fitting less than T2 Strips and 3 MLUIIs, you're giving up more yield for safety, and that's just fine. That's how it's supposed to work (though I have to wonder why the retriever and not the Skiff/Procurer).


are you being scammed at those prices, or have the prices really gone up that much in the last week? i brought a stack of mlus in jita for like 1.5m each last week.
Pipa Porto
#212 - 2012-08-10 08:09:34 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
are you being scammed at those prices, or have the prices really gone up that much in the last week? i brought a stack of mlus in jita for like 1.5m each last week.


Right now, Jita buy orders for MLUIIs are 2.5m, and Sell orders are being maniped up at 7.2m.

MSMIIs are 8.8m/6m sell/buy.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Dave Stark
#213 - 2012-08-10 08:12:42 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
are you being scammed at those prices, or have the prices really gone up that much in the last week? i brought a stack of mlus in jita for like 1.5m each last week.


Right now, Jita buy orders for MLUIIs are 2.5m, and Sell orders are being maniped up at 7.2m.

MSMIIs are 8.8m/6m sell/buy.


sweet jesus....

glad i made all my purchases last week then, i could do with more mlu IIs but **** that, i'll just pull them off my other ships for now.
Pipa Porto
#214 - 2012-08-10 08:16:58 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
are you being scammed at those prices, or have the prices really gone up that much in the last week? i brought a stack of mlus in jita for like 1.5m each last week.


Right now, Jita buy orders for MLUIIs are 2.5m, and Sell orders are being maniped up at 7.2m.

MSMIIs are 8.8m/6m sell/buy.


sweet jesus....

glad i made all my purchases last week then, i could do with more mlu IIs but **** that, i'll just pull them off my other ships for now.


I'd Sell any you don't need. Prices will fall once manufacturing kicks up. (MLUs didn't have their blueprints changed that I know of)


Hey, I just noticed. MSM is a fun acronym that stands for several fun things.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#215 - 2012-08-10 08:17:33 UTC
Miners get huge buffs, still cry

never change, minerbears
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#216 - 2012-08-10 08:19:38 UTC
These idiotic threads should be locked the instant they are posted.
Dave Stark
#217 - 2012-08-10 08:24:16 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
are you being scammed at those prices, or have the prices really gone up that much in the last week? i brought a stack of mlus in jita for like 1.5m each last week.


Right now, Jita buy orders for MLUIIs are 2.5m, and Sell orders are being maniped up at 7.2m.

MSMIIs are 8.8m/6m sell/buy.


sweet jesus....

glad i made all my purchases last week then, i could do with more mlu IIs but **** that, i'll just pull them off my other ships for now.


I'd Sell any you don't need. Prices will fall once manufacturing kicks up. (MLUs didn't have their blueprints changed that I know of)


Hey, I just noticed. MSM is a fun acronym that stands for several fun things.


i have exactly 6, enough for fitting 2 ships, i was going to buy 4 more to fit my cov/hulk too so i didn't have to strip modules every time i change ship. i don't have any spare ones to cash in on :(
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#218 - 2012-08-10 08:35:02 UTC
I am thinking about getting into mining. i have a couple Bantams and some Cargohold Expanders.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Dave Stark
#219 - 2012-08-10 08:36:19 UTC
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
I am thinking about getting into mining. i have a couple Bantams and some Cargohold Expanders.

to straight for a ret/cov, it's like a week of training.
Pipa Porto
#220 - 2012-08-10 08:37:14 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
i have exactly 6, enough for fitting 2 ships, i was going to buy 4 more to fit my cov/hulk too so i didn't have to strip modules every time i change ship. i don't have any spare ones to cash in on :(


Sad

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto