Warfare & Tactics

Probably it has been said...but here it goes again.

One of the main problems now with FW is the power that noob alt farmers, from ppl that aren't even concerned with the militia for who they are plexing for, have in the warzone.

One thing that must be done is...VULNERABLE SYSTEMS DO NOT GIVE LP FOR PLEXING AFTER THAT STATE! it should work just as defensive plexing is right now.

I'll give an example, right now, with the Nulli alliance is putting every minmatar systems to vulnerable state, they are holding them, for when time comes ( enough systems to reach T5 ) take them all down, and cash the LPs...untill then we will have an entire warzone crashed, with systems vulnerable and available to be plexed for LPs to infinity and beyond! Now this wouldn't hurt so much if the Amarr really take action as soon as it reaches the desirable number of systems...but...what if they don't?

As i see it, right now there isn't out there many ways of making easy ISK as FW is giving now...so it is pretty clear to me and to anyone with half a brain that something is going to be done to fix it, and that should be in the winter expansion...untill then we have this fountain of ISK...so why take those systems, if you can plex them when they are vulnerable, and actually making them even more vulnerable ( that you never now if they are 105% or 500% so no one bothers to try dplex them ).

If Nulli is smart, they can keep the Minmatar/Amarr warzone the way it is for the entire summer make trillions of LPs, and as soon as patch note comes out with some changes to FW, then make the move before it hits...this will put an entire warzone broken for months, and you couldn't blame them...cause it's the smart thing to do! the only counter to this is if the Minmatar form a Amarr corp just to take the systems for the enemy ( weird isn't it ).

IF vulnerable systems stop giving LPs not only we will see a winning side having to eventually make the ihub bash, cause of no more systems to plex for LP, but ALSO, it will make that the farmers that are here only for the LPs go plex in more violent and enemy home systems, actually helping the militia even if they dont give a f.u.ck....just because they don't have those vulnerable back systems where they still work on.

Bez

While i would like it, theres no getting away from the fact that this change would cripple whichever militia had the fewest alt plexers rather than fixing alt plexing itself.

Must say i don't have the link at hand with the details.

But from what i read on a FW guide...
Once you reach vulnerable state for a system the status still goes up above 100% vulnerable (e.g. 150% vulnerable).
Which accounts for the effect that ppl think they cannot un-vulnerable a system. it's just a shitton of unrewarding work without even seeing any progress since CCP failed to implement it into the UI.

So when you defensive plex it from 150% to 149% vulnerable you might think nothing happens.
But in fact you didn't try hard enough. Do a few dozen more and you might end up with making it INvulnerable again.

At some point of the vulnerable state (200% maybe ?) i think systems will stop spawning plexes altogether.

So unless that guide was full of lies and bullshit....

HTFU and L2P

This is not the case, you know less about FW mechanics than you do about holding sov in null.

Not really, no. Just funny that people who have just joined FW and learnt everything they know from reading guides try and correct people who have played it for years and probably wrote some of those guides.

What would really help fixing fw is making plexes not afk soloable by 150k sp alt in t1 frig.

LP reward defending, maybe not as much than attacking but some ( does not make farming much easier, it already is really easy)

Posting in a thread with the only 2 guys in FW that really care about station lockout. Needless to say their ideas do not lead to any sort of balance and would just reward the side with more alts plexing in half fit ships.

Fixed that for you.

Also, neither of us wanted the current farmville. We warned about it and were proven right in our predictions of course. That does not mean we wont be running back and forth between the open bank vault and getaway van with "ze monies" while it's possible to do so.

As you well know, PERVS were 100% right on what would happen when FW missions were boosted and they even sent GM to Ladistier to see exactly how much LP we were farming

In fact, it was a person from your corporation (Lock Out) who was eagerly wanting station lockouts and removing all Caldari presence from low-sec so he could have "good fights" and another person from your militia (Andreus Ixiris) opening the champagne bottles in advance celebrating the eventual conquest of all Caldari systems. How's that working out for him?

Way to snip the part where he said the guide might have been misleading. Your post is about as helpful and constructive as this one.