EVE General Discussion

Its not. Having to take the LO out of a ship to jump it via carrier and then forgetting to put it back in is a PITA

Since you're far too lazy to click a link.

A) I am talking to the Dev right now.

B) Not sure, but they did.

C) Why should only one race have to do this while all the others don't?

I am here to spurge in the OP's thread.

Maybe using ships intended for cyno's is what CCP wants you to do?

Spurge complete. Thank you for your time.

Then perhaps it should be taken away from ALL rookie ship rather than effecting a single race only?



I think you mean a ship other than Impairor. Unfortunately that isn't the right question as the ability being lost isn't one you can train to get back. The question is how can an Amarr player train to get free, ready to go, cyno ships when they dock like the rest of the races?

The expense isn't the issue unless CCP plans to seed expanded cargo hold 1s as an NPC item on the market in both NPC and SOV space. As this affects only a single race, it is very unlikely you will see them stocked regularly anywhere. People who know better will simply stop rolling Amarr characters period. As it stands, all the starter races are equal and can do the same things out of the box, except Amarr. I wouldn't recommend anyone roll an Amarr character right now as it only gives a disadvantage when compared to the other races. It isn't like you can't FLY Amarr if you want. Just train the skills. However, if you ROLL Amarr, you will forever be at a disadvantage when compared to the other races for cynoing and there is nothing you can do about it. So you are better off taking any race other than Amarr as a starter race.

But lets talk about Cyno V. If you aren't Amarr, you can do it with Cyno IV. That means you have a character that has less than 900K SP which is covered by your default clone. That means you can jump to ANY station and it doesn't matter if it has medical facilities or not. As soon as you have Cyno V, you go over that 900K limit and now can only jump to stations with medical facilities due to the need to upgrade your clone.

Again, much more risk for no reward and only a single race affected.

So, what's the issue again?

Are you going to fly out to the edge of the map to provide one? If I am not amarr, I don't have to fit anything extra. I can just pod jump to any station I have a cyno and fuel at and jump with no changes necessary.

The cargo expander is not a valid solution in any way at all. If you honestly think it is, then I am pretty sure you have never dealt with nul-sec logistics for an alliance before if you have ever even jumped a capital at all, which I doubt.

You work extremely hard at missing the point. Did you have to have training to be that stupid or does it come naturally to you?

Cool, glad to hear. Hope it goes well.

But

B) They didn't permanently remove it, which was my point. The ability is still readily accessible.

C) CCP explained it as a way to learn the Amarr ship traits. Less cargo space, in this example. They want the rookie ships to reflect that. Seems reasonable to me, if maybe a bit inelegant.