EVE General Discussion

Meet the so called Bully Corp. It may suck, but it's perfectly within the rules.

A possible solution if you are a small corp: just hang out in low sec. We found a quiet 0.2 system with virtually no pod kills for lengthy periods of time, and set up PI there and in the surrounding systems. Once we are in low sec, the Wardec is dropped soon after, because they won't follow us into low sec to wage war. At least, none of the Bully corps have so far.

Now, does this cut into our profits? Yes. But a Wardec must be dealt with one way or the other. And the main idea with our strategy is that zero losses is better than minimal High Sec profits and large losses.

I'm sure you have met my network of friends the tracking agents right? The moment you log in your little portrait lights up on my screen because I made you my friend. Then I go to the nearest station and set a trace through an agent. After a minute or 2 I get the eve-mail with him telling me what region, system, station, or belt you are in. I grab my probe ship and head in that direction. If you lose me through a little chase in systems I simply go back to the agent and set another search.

If the agent says that you are not on the known map then that means you are in a wormhole. This is a little harder but I have a secret little method of figuring out which one you are in. Once that is accomplished its just a matter of scanning again.

Now tell me, what part of that description is false.

There is no honor in EVE. A kill is a kill, it's all about the green numbers on your killboard because that will make you an important person, right?

WRONG!

What if the green numbers are all suicide ganks?
What if all the numbers are alts?
What if all the numbers are missioners and miners?

Does that make you important?

No, it does not.
But sadly alot of people think so. So they wardec non-pvp corpsto get these green numbers. Funny part is, they're just as much carebears as the ones they claim to shoot. Why? Simple, if enemy shot back they would loose their ships and get a red number.
It's how EVE is and its how it works in general despite what the "highsec pvp'ers" say.

As for those who say EVE is a pvp game, yes you're right. But it's also so much more than just pvp, did you know? Afterall, CCP advertises that EVE is a sandbox game, allowing PvE and PvP. With the current mechanics no matter how often the highsec pvp'ers give tears, it's all in their favor aslong as they have the option for wardec. It wont change and it will always be here no matter if CCP raises wardec to 500mil or not. Pvp'ers just cry then as they have to use isk to shoot you. Seen it countless of times.

For myself, i'm a bit of both. I play EVE for the fun of the moment, meaning sometimes PvE has my attention and other times PvP. However, on the PvP side, the kills that fight back are 1000 times more satisfying wether you loose or not. (Yup i'm not good at it, but still have fun) and having fun is what EVE is all about.

Therefore i understand the OP in some ways and some not. But it's true regarding the industry pilot. If a pilot plays the game for industry and train for it, what use would he be in a fight if he's expertise lies elsewhere? Thus he stays docked and the wardec'ing side give delicius tears about undocking and such :)

Its a kill, or be killed world. make your choice.

This is where you're getting things mixed up, they are doing it FOR the kills, this isn't griefing, its a PvP Game, no one ever picks a target they know they are going to loose for, if they are picking you/your corp/some corp you know then its because they've made themselves look like a weak target.



It's actually been brought up by the CSM to help introduce new players sooner to loosing a ship/getting podded, to help remove this pre-set fear/worry a newer player has from having this happen to them.



As an Industrialist, my opinion is that it is fine just the way it is, I don't consider it griefing, I consider it part of the game, hulkageddon hasn't impacted my corp because myself and my friends pay attention and only take calculable risks.

What corp is your main in? I'll come to your assistance.

Ok, here's my question for you......... Lets say CCP and everyone in these forums, jumps up and agreed with you suddenly, and through some magic made it impossible for people to war-dec and grief industrial corps, because "they don't want to pvp".

With this in mind, what is the risk vs reward factor for your chosen profession? With the chance of being suicide ganked or war-decced, what is the possible risk to your activities? wouldn't that make the game horribly boring and dull?

Additionally, making empire activities like this That safe, would mean even more people would do it, which means there would be even more competition, which would mean your profit margins would get nuked.

Not broken when I click it lol. Also, obligatory flame for not posting with your main.

What do you fly when you "hunt?" I'm just curious :3

Depends on what the opponent is flying. You've got a working copy of my killboard, that should give you an idea. I can fly almost everything up to BS and I can shoot anything that has a trigger so I can keep my options open.