EVE General Discussion

A "industry" corp that is unable to defend itself is fail in a pvp game. U know this is a PVP game, right? Maybe u don't want to take part in pvp but others will for sure. If i would be in your shoes i would think about how to defend my corp, with mercs or with combatskills for example. If u jump into the sea with a wound, well knowing that there are many sharks around... u dont blame the shark if u get bitten. You blame the idiot who went swimming.



Again, "all" players have the same problems that u experience now. Why should ccp make a change for you if others dont have problems with that? Train your newbies, tell them that this is not a sologame and that this is not 100% about industry. You have to defend yourself or your mates sooner or later. Better learn that quick.



Then u should look for another game?



The only problem i see here is that u think wrong about this game and that u suddenly realized that this is not "hello kitty online".

Actually, you pretty much should. It's one of the cornerstones of the game. If you want to do those other things, you have to take the necessary steps to secure your playground, because no matter what, PvP is everywhere and combat will always be a possibility whether you personally want to engage in it or not.

Don't listen to any of them. They all just want to help their fellow PVP neanderthal buddies get kills.

1) Just don't play, or play on alts. They'll get bored and frustrated. Tough for them.

2) Warp stabs. Sacrifice a little performance for some good old fashioned warp stabalizers, especially on blockade runners and the like!

3) If you need things moved, hire Red Frog Freight or other trusted moving services.

4) Do NOT trust mercs. They can just take your money and run or help the other guys. No predictability with pvp-tards.

5) If mining, ensure you are 32km+ away from the belt warp in zone and always alligned somewhere, gate or otherwise. Dock, jump in pods, move 4 systems away, and do something else. Done. Deny them any pleasure :) If they can try to force you from enjoying PvE, you can try to force them to be unable to PvP.

6) Get in a pod and fly a few systems away, buy another ship, and continue in your life. Simply treat the little worms like the street rats they are, a minor annoyance at BEST.

7) If you're REALLY desperate, and I don't suggest this highly if you're new, live in a wormhole for a bit or a far off nul sec system with no traffic. There's so much empty nul sec that no one will really bother you, same with wormholes. Just keep your directional scanner active for combat probes and all ships aligned and you're just peachy.

8) JUMP CLONES ARE YOUR FRIEND! Train a couple clones up in different corners of high sec. If they're still willing to fly 45+ jumps away just to MAYBE be able to kill you, then you just prove how pathetic they really are.

Fine. There's plenty of other ways I can deal with you. But just to annoy you further I could just keep flying away or jump clone~, I don't care :) If you're willing to fly 45+ jumps just to try to maybe get a kill well...you got some issues ;)

My ways work just as well as "fighting back" or hiring mercs. If they aren't pvp centered, then they won't fight effectively and just end up on a KB. Maybe they can't afford mercs, and if they can there's no guarantee they'll keep their end of the bargain. And disbanding a corp is just shameful, it makes the griefers win.

My methods allow them to continue playing while avoiding the griefers relatively easy, while your "methods" just seem like passe pro-pvp solutions to get them killed or shamed faster.

…except that none of your suggestions help them do what they want, whereas hiring mercs might actually keep the opposing party off their backs. They could also just buy them off. Put another way: your ways don't work and stand no chance of working for the OP's purposes; the other ideas actually do.

If they want to be absolutely free of wardecs, there is only one way. If they want to get out of one right now, there is also only one way (ok, two… but the other one is a bit delayed).

Your attitude is all wrong. If they fly cheap and don't give a **** i.e. are comfortable with the fact that pvp is an area of the game theyre not good at but can be with practice much like everybody else who has ever played this game then why should they care if they end up on a kb. throw 10 noob **** fit frigates at a BC the worse that could happen is they'd lose 10 **** fit frigates obviously the best case would be that 10 low skill carebears just face raped a ~leet~ pvp hisec war ******.

edit- your advice, despite being practical, is bad and you should feel bad.

Helps if you hire the mercs who value their reputation.

Welcome to EVE. Here you are forced to pvp. You have to understand that u have influence on the Market, this market is pvp driven. You can't just take the reward but ignoring the other side that is pvp.