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Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-08-09 09:01:00 UTC
I'm sure this has been asked million times on Forum but last i checked was 2 years ago so i figure something MUST have changed.

Is there a ship on EVE who can be stealthy and still kill reasonable strong ships?(lets say...up to BC/Tengu/BS?) or no such thing exist, if so..is there a solo PVP ship that can practically do it and/or worth doing it?

Just planning my training up ahead in PVP scale and want to see what roles i can fit in.
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#2 - 2012-08-09 09:04:27 UTC
As for "kiting" i heared wonderfull things about the armor-tanked rapier.
Some people were / are "fooling" around with expensive stealth bomber fits (30k point).

I myself used a 1600mm plated / mar II pilgrim for stuff you mentioned. It was doing ok back in the days.

My true stories
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-09 09:25:30 UTC
Cloaky and that can catch & break a good Tengu by itself...can be complicated.

If you're aiming at screwing with Battecruisers and Battleships, I heard that the dreaded moment you see a cloaky Proteus appear right in front of you when you are alone may cause sudden calls for clean pants.

Pilgrims are nice but your 200-300-ish DPS might struggle to break some stuff.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#4 - 2012-08-09 09:26:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
stealth bombers are pwning ratting BC/BS/T3 erry day.
you dont even need 30km disruptors for.
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#5 - 2012-08-09 09:30:17 UTC
Darius Brinn wrote:
Pilgrims are nice but your 200-300-ish DPS might struggle to break some stuff.


If the target got a whole lot of nothing in the cap-batteries it´s just a matter of time.

My true stories
Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-08-09 09:35:02 UTC
Can anyone give me ship fits that make pilot around eve crap thsemfl and give me a good chance of destroying them before they get awya? :)
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#7 - 2012-08-09 09:57:54 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
maybe something like this?

[Proteus, cloaky]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Damage Control II
Khanid Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Propulsion - Wake Limiter

EHP: 118k
DPS: 621

Without mwd stable at 53%.
Only got t1 rigs - 1600mm t2 plate in use with old stats.
sadly no drones
Ture sansha warp scrambler (3 points) with lvl 5: 16.9km (20.3 overheated).

With null (optimal + falloff = 15km) you should be able to keep everything away from you (14km web + scrambler; dps goes down to 443)

My true stories
Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-08-09 10:10:40 UTC
Oh, and this fit can take down..what exacly?

Also any killer Tengu fit be great too since i use Caldari mostly :P
Doddy
Excidium.
#9 - 2012-08-09 10:29:01 UTC
Bombers kill Ratting bs very easily. BCs are more risky but still doable. Pilgrim can kill most ratters but takes a while to do it. Cloaky t3s the same.

Cloaky ships are specifically designed to be weaker than non cloaky pvp ships (so they aren't op) so to kill a pvp ship 1v1 you are really relying on idiocy or bad luck on your oponents side (like a bomber catching a fleet bs trying to catch up with its fleet).
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#10 - 2012-08-09 10:31:31 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
Oh, and this fit can take down..what exacly?


Maybe you shouldn´t pick a t3 for pvp yet.

My true stories
Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-09 10:43:59 UTC
I'm not. ..I just learning. Right now ratting off with a Drake usually and training for Covert Ops and such.

BTW, Gatecampers wether solo or group usually use what ship to gank the crap out of you?
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
#12 - 2012-08-09 12:54:35 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
I'm sure this has been asked million times on Forum but last i checked was 2 years ago so i figure something MUST have changed.

Is there a ship on EVE who can be stealthy and still kill reasonable strong ships?(lets say...up to BC/Tengu/BS?) or no such thing exist, if so..is there a solo PVP ship that can practically do it and/or worth doing it?

Just planning my training up ahead in PVP scale and want to see what roles i can fit in.



get a buddy.... you go in a rapier.. he in an arazu. Simple.. and very very few ships can escape without calling friends.
Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
#13 - 2012-08-09 12:56:34 UTC
Darius Brinn wrote:
Cloaky and that can catch & break a good Tengu by itself...can be complicated.

If you're aiming at screwing with Battecruisers and Battleships, I heard that the dreaded moment you see a cloaky Proteus appear right in front of you when you are alone may cause sudden calls for clean pants.

Pilgrims are nice but your 200-300-ish DPS might struggle to break some stuff.



Even that is risky... try uncloakying said ship in front of a AC tempest that is fielding 2 heavy neuts..... you won 't fir emany shots in such a fight...
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-09 13:16:42 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
I'm not. ..I just learning. Right now ratting off with a Drake usually and training for Covert Ops and such.

BTW, Gatecampers wether solo or group usually use what ship to gank the crap out of you?



Then forget about T3 bashing, those ships are designed to be awesome, if a relative new player could scare the crap out of them nobady would buy a billion Isk Tengu.

Steath Bombers can be very dangerous but require quite some skill to be used in an effective way when you're flying solo.

so be prepared to be training for quite sometime.

As or gate camping, Caldari ships usualy suck at gate camping. (missiles have damage delay, Rails are only usefull at range)

But if you want a caldari ship that scares the living daylights out of people, you can't go wrong with a Falcon.