EVE General Discussion

Personally I prefer it doesn't drop from the Ore hold. It makes ganking unprofitable. Or it would if these idiots fit tanks on there ships.

I sickens me that I mine and might be classed as a "Miner" along with these whining little scum.

The 5 million in ore doesn't make it profitable or not.

Wow, you really failed on that one!

I thought my post was pretty coherent, apparently it wasn't for you.

People in the NPC corp were mad BECAUSE the hulk didn't have a larger ore bay. There were people literally complaining that the hulk should mine the fastest, and cary the most ore; they DON'T want to mine in a hulk with orca support, and they were mad that in order to get the hold they would have to use a mak with lower yeild.

Do you get it now? Apparently some people think they know what the ship balance should be, and CCP obviously doesn't because they spent all morning talking about what the hulk should be, and getting mad that it wasn't anymore.

WTF did you read when you read my post?

My alt is extremely happy, I like the changes.
Dear god...maybe next time, understand what you read before you go off on a tangent?

But it does make it 5 million less in the gankers pocket. Ganking should not be about profiting from the kill unless you are paid by a third party or the gankee is an idiot. (Idiots are apparently not in short supply as shown by people still flying hulks without tanks or support)

When your permanent stance is "whine" good things really screw up the works

When I read the comment that Soundwave made about not wanting suicide ganking to be profitable, I didn't really take it like he meant that it should never be profitable to suicide gank.

I took it like they didn't want any one ship, even if fitted for the possibility of being ganked, to be profitable to a suicide ganker. I know the hulk yesterday wasn't worth blowing up when fitted properly, but I felt like maybe people kind of took the comment to far to one side.

Ganking should ABSOLUTELY be profitable. If there is no profit in it then the only people ganking are people who really are only doing it to cause misery to other people; I can go play Mortal Online or Darkfall if that's the sort of people I wanted to play with.

Soundwave NEVER said a thing about ganking. He said SUICIDE ganking. They just don't want a single ship targetted because it's worthwhile to blow yourself up in the process of blowing it up. Honestly, that does kind of make sense to me, and I'm very happy that this patch still allows hulks to be suicide ganked and profitable in the process, when you don't fit them properly to protect yourself; which I believe he also pointed out that they were keeping that aspect in mind with the rebalance.

That is, of course, based on my understanding that the hulk was profitable based on the salvage that you get from it and that they didn't change that.

I'm going to go with no.

^^ what this guy said, the hulk is the same, no upgraded bonuses, smaller hold and none of this "ready for deepspace" defense that it used to have.

come on CCP this was a nerf and you know it, hulk is not a better fleet miner, its now the worst miner in the game, NO cargo space and NO defense, and NO BUFF TO MINING AMOUNT, so much for most efficient miner. the mackinaw can mine just as much ore but with fewer lasers, this is bullshit.

and whats with the lame 1% to ice mining on all ships that has absolutely no benefit to the 500s cycle time of ice harvesters

hulk needs more love and it needs it now, for it to be a more efficient miner it needs to have its bonuses revamped a LOT. fine keep the paper defenses those i can work with, but the mining bonuses need to be changed to 5% for the Mining barge skill and 7.5% for exhumer skill, otherwise we are being penalized for wanting a fleet mining ship.

We'll just ignore the fact that it mines faster then any other exhumer and call it the worse fleet mining ship because if we're going to rage we might as well do it like a moron.

You are whats wrong with miners.