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EVE Online: Inferno 1.2 Issues

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Angmar Udate
#101 - 2012-08-08 17:24:37 UTC
Mos7Wan7ed wrote:
I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3



I believe the idea was the Hulk was ship for use in teams not 'solo'. Also it was announced it would be this way in devblog.
:tears:
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#102 - 2012-08-08 17:26:17 UTC
Mos7Wan7ed wrote:
I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3


Well the mac with only 2 lasers can carry a good selection of crystals.

I suspect when the regular hulk users who have not read anything about the new cargo hold change on the hulk will start coming to the forums over the next few days once they realize they will no longer be able to carry a normal selection of mining crystals.

Senex Legio
Bubanni
Corus Aerospace
#103 - 2012-08-08 17:26:50 UTC
please remove the stacking penalty from ionic field projector rigs... Ugh I can understand the subcontroller rigs... but locking range hardly needed a nerf

Supercap nerf - change ewar immunity https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194759 Module activation delay! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1180934
Nikolai Dostoyevski
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2012-08-08 17:27:59 UTC
classified data wrote:

then why is the post called 'ship balancing summer update'? and CCP announces soon after that they plan to review destroyers over the winter. this implies that T1 frigs would have been sorted by this patch.


I have to agree. I was expecting the new frigs to be in the game based on everything we've seen. Logged on today looking forward to using the Navitas. The login screen detailing the patch notes even states that there are frig changes and has a hyperlink to those changes. A little deceiving.
Jack Mancetti
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2012-08-08 17:29:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
The stupid inventarwindow pop's up every time if i dock up,


*Post edited. Keep it on topic and non-offensive please*
-ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Gaspod TWD
Gas-Light-Industries
#106 - 2012-08-08 17:32:06 UTC
The help icon for the new tutorials will not go away. Every time I log on it's there on the side bar. I right click and remove but it'll be back next time I log in.
Sire Magnus
TLP Intergalactic Corp
#107 - 2012-08-08 17:33:23 UTC
The reprocessing values of the new barges are not in line with the new build costs !!
Bruce Blacky
Blacky Invention Research Development YinYang
#108 - 2012-08-08 17:33:31 UTC
Elijah Craig wrote:
I reported this for the 1.2 version on SiSi (bug number 141974) but I'll repeat it here as it is my only pet hate with the Uni Inv (which otherwise works fine for me and I like it).

Basically, when you open the Uni Inv primary window - if you have the 'My Filters' tab closed/minimised, the Index Tree's width is not remembered for the next time you open it and when you open it the second time, it defaults to ~really narrow~.

Then, every time I open the Uni Inv, I have to grab the thin divider and widen it. Everytime. It just makes me all :sadface:

The workaround is to leave the 'My filters' tab unminimized, which I'd rather not have to do.

Other than that it's all gravy.


another workaround is to use the arrows on top twice.
first time the tree view is blended out (the divider is moved all to the left)
and second time it moves the divider to your original setting


cheers
Bruce
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#109 - 2012-08-08 17:35:00 UTC
Angmar Udate wrote:
Mos7Wan7ed wrote:
I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3



I believe the idea was the Hulk was ship for use in teams not 'solo'. Also it was announced it would be this way in devblog.
:tears:

Nice, I wonder how many bots this will break :D

How to win EVE
BIGDOG4
State War Academy
Caldari State
#110 - 2012-08-08 17:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: BIGDOG4
Drastic frame with the new patch !
Before patch 20-30 frames during fleet 200+ now 5-10 lowering settings dosen't increase framerate.
Seyda Mzuleft Cthulhu
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#111 - 2012-08-08 17:46:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Seyda Mzuleft Cthulhu
I don't see any difference between the old mining skills of the Hulk and the new mining skills :

Old Hulk skills :

Mining Barge Skill Bonus:
3% better yield for Strip Miners per level.
7.5% bonus to all shield resistances per level

Exhumers Skill Bonus:
3% better yield for Strip Miners per level
3% reduction in Ice Harvester duration per level

New Hulk skills :

Mining Barge Skill Bonus:
3% better yield for Strip Miners per level.
5% bonus to all shield resistances per level

Exhumers Skill Bonus:
3% better yield for Strip Miners per level
4% reduction in Ice Harvester duration per level

But the bonus to all shield resistances is lower, and the Exapnded Cargohold II doesn't affect the ore hold.

PS : I don't mine ice, so the reduction in Ice Harvester duration doesn't serve me.
Noslen Nosilla
Federal Logistics Initiative Conglomerate
United Interests
#112 - 2012-08-08 17:47:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Noslen Nosilla
Mos7Wan7ed wrote:
I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3



At the risk of being flamed where the heck were all you guys bitching about this when it was on SISI Ugh

Be polite.

Be professional.

But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
Sniper Elly
Saint's Industries G4NG
#113 - 2012-08-08 17:53:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Sniper Elly
why only 8500 m3 in ore cargo on hulk when lvl 3 mining mission got 9000 m3 What?
Pajomcek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#114 - 2012-08-08 17:55:50 UTC
Anomalies aren't respawning in 0.0
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#115 - 2012-08-08 17:56:58 UTC
Sniper Elly wrote:
why only 8500 m3 in ore cargo on hulk when lvl 3 mining mission got 9000 m3 What?



From now on when you are doing the level 3 mining mission you will need a support fleet, so find some players to help you mine that out, you will need a orca to provide boosts and someone to do hauling and fresh crystal deliveries.

Senex Legio
Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#116 - 2012-08-08 18:02:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Djana Libra
Please check whats up with the malpais region.
it looks like all systems here have huge lag or at a huge time dillation. even chatting in local is slow as hell.

Opening you inventory takes 30 seconds, opening fitting window 45 ....

Also it took me 3 minutes to log in my characters while the systems where loaded (being on the entering game thingy with a black screen on the background)
Ketplunk
Glory-Hole
#117 - 2012-08-08 18:02:43 UTC
Ketplunk wrote:
When I log in, the log in process gets to Preparing Data, loads a bit of the bar and then the client crashes, and doesn't open again. Running the repair tool does nothing, and I already cleared the cache. I saw someone had the same problem (won't let me link) but they didn't post how they fixed it in their thread. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?

No one?
Oisin Sandovar
Don't Die Interstellar Enterprises
#118 - 2012-08-08 18:04:55 UTC
Ketplunk wrote:
Ketplunk wrote:
When I log in, the log in process gets to Preparing Data, loads a bit of the bar and then the client crashes, and doesn't open again. Running the repair tool does nothing, and I already cleared the cache. I saw someone had the same problem (won't let me link) but they didn't post how they fixed it in their thread. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?

No one?

Reboot?

"And the only people I fear are those who never have doubts", Billy Joel, Shades of Grey
Mos7Wan7ed
Hardcore Industries
#119 - 2012-08-08 18:08:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Mos7Wan7ed
Angmar Udate wrote:
Mos7Wan7ed wrote:
I am gonna say this is a bug or maybe ccp doesn't play this game at all...

350m3 cargo hold for storing mining crystals... Really? 350m3 you can figure a set of 3 mining crystals for only 4 ore types with no room for spares. That might be fine for empire...

For a 0.0 fleet fit Hulk a 350m3 cargo hold for mining crystals is far short of what is required for 0.0 plex mining. Striping 0.0 plexes with belts that have 16 ore types. CCP has made using ALL Exhumers in 0.0 more difficult.

Hulks need a minimum of 1,125m3
Mackinaws need a minimum of 750m3
Skiff needs a minimum of 375m3



I believe the idea was the Hulk was ship for use in teams not 'solo'. Also it was announced it would be this way in devblog.
:tears:


Not saying they should ever be solo... I run a small wing of these myself with Rorqual managing boosts and hauling.

Before you could store a full set of mining crystals and spares on board and still have enough space for a full cycle of ore. Post CCP changes the job is more difficult when you need to micro manage the minuscule cargo hold when you are mining out 0.0 grav sites.

Before: Right click strip miner > load new crystal

Now:
Send alt to station or POS
locate required required crystals
warp to hulk
unload unnecessary crystals from hulk to jet can
swapping crystals from one ship to another in space via a jet can
load new cryatals
scoop unneeded crystals to the alts cargo hold
send the alt back to POS or station with crystals
unloading the hauler and heading back to move ore again.

If you run 2,3,4,5 hulks then the task is 2,4,8,16 times more time consuming and annoying

I never bother to read the blogs and visit the test server because CCP can change a ship 15 times between the first blog post and it hits tranquility. Their are dozens of people along the way that read these, visit the test server, and voice issues . i don't feel the need to do the legwork myself.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2012-08-08 18:16:33 UTC
The text in chat , station names in space and in the ui is displaying either as solid blocks or dots, not all the text (except chat is all blocks ). Station name starts as text and ends as small dots.

Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk