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ForeWarned Erkkinen
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-08 14:58:28 UTC
Ok i have a hulk with 2 expanded cargo rigs. Before patch cargo hold wa 10500m3.
Now after patch cargo is 350m3 and ore hold is 8500m3.
Am i correct in assuming the rigs dont work now ?
Ty
Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-08-08 14:59:37 UTC
Correct. Now rip 'em off and throw some Medium CDFE's on there!

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ForeWarned Erkkinen
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-08-08 15:01:55 UTC
Oh cool this means we all get to petition ccp for rembursement for the rigs as they made them useless lol

Hope they get flooded with petitions tbh.

Ty for the reply
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-08-08 15:03:18 UTC
Sarik Olecar wrote:
Correct. Now rip 'em off and throw some Medium CDFE's on there!



or buff

FC, what do?
Lilliana Stelles
#5 - 2012-08-08 15:04:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilliana Stelles
Bug report.
Sounds like a glitch.
The rigs should still affect your cargo hold.
They may not, however, affect the ore hold.

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ForeWarned Erkkinen
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-08-08 15:06:18 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Bug report.
Sounds like a glitch.
The rigs should still affect your cargo hold.
They will now, however, affect the ore hold.



Nope rigs make no difference to either hold. petitioned anyways

TY
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#7 - 2012-08-08 15:24:01 UTC
Cargo hold should be 595.1 with two t1 rigs. that is room for more crystals!
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#8 - 2012-08-08 15:28:50 UTC
Sarik Olecar wrote:
Correct. Now rip 'em off and throw some Medium CDFE's on there!


Thats one hell of an acronym, took me a minute.

Not today spaghetti.
GM Homonoia
Game Master Retirement Home
#9 - 2012-08-08 16:17:27 UTC
We just double checked this and the rigs still affect your cargo space (just not your ore hold) and this is working as it was intended. If your rigs are not affecting your cargo hold please try and relog or clear your cache.

In regards to reimbursing these rigs; we have a strict policy of not reimbursing for any changes made to ships, modules, etc. Change is simply part of the game. We did not reimburse when we nerfed nano setups, nerfed supercarriers, nerfed titans, changed POS fuel mechanics, etc. In the same way we will not be reimbursing or removing rigs on mining barges. This is a blanket policy and filing a petition will not change this in any way; all reimbursement requests tied to this change will be denied.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#10 - 2012-08-08 16:22:06 UTC
As these plans have been quite public for months with multiple dev blogs, multiple high-profile forum threads, and were available on SiSi for quite some time, if you're surprised by this it's because you don't pay enough attention to what goes on around you.

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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#11 - 2012-08-08 16:25:24 UTC
GM Homonoia wrote:
We just double checked this and the rigs still affect your cargo space (just not your ore hold) and this is working as it was intended. If your rigs are not affecting your cargo hold please try and relog or clear your cache.

In regards to reimbursing these rigs; we have a strict policy of not reimbursing for any changes made to ships, modules, etc. Change is simply part of the game. We did not reimburse when we nerfed nano setups, nerfed supercarriers, nerfed titans, changed POS fuel mechanics, etc. In the same way we will not be reimbursing or removing rigs on mining barges. This is a blanket policy and filing a petition will not change this in any way; all reimbursement requests tied to this change will be denied.


Whole lot of the word nerf in there and not enough buff.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#12 - 2012-08-08 16:27:20 UTC
One might even say the OP was. . .

. . . Forewarned?

Hohohohoho
GM Homonoia
Game Master Retirement Home
#13 - 2012-08-08 16:30:05 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
GM Homonoia wrote:
We just double checked this and the rigs still affect your cargo space (just not your ore hold) and this is working as it was intended. If your rigs are not affecting your cargo hold please try and relog or clear your cache.

In regards to reimbursing these rigs; we have a strict policy of not reimbursing for any changes made to ships, modules, etc. Change is simply part of the game. We did not reimburse when we nerfed nano setups, nerfed supercarriers, nerfed titans, changed POS fuel mechanics, etc. In the same way we will not be reimbursing or removing rigs on mining barges. This is a blanket policy and filing a petition will not change this in any way; all reimbursement requests tied to this change will be denied.


Whole lot of the word nerf in there and not enough buff.


We obviously do not reimburse for buffs. Although any buff is a nerf to something else and vice versa. So maybe I should have used the word 're-balance'.

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Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-08 16:34:23 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
One might even say the OP was. . .

. . . Forewarned?

Hohohohoho


i see what you did there

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#15 - 2012-08-08 16:44:11 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Cargo hold should be 595.1 with two t1 rigs. that is room for more crystals!

And you can use a can for even more!

Less of a troll: If you are taking your hulk to a mining op many jumps away and need to haul as many crystals as possible:

Fit cargo expanders in the lows.
Use small or medium cans full of crystals, and remember to bring your replacement modules for the lows.
When you get to the system, refit for tank or yield as you prefer
Give the extra crystals to whoever is doing the ore hauling. If that is an orca in the belt, all of the refit stuff is easy, just use the orca.

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Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#16 - 2012-08-08 16:46:33 UTC
ForeWarned Erkkinen wrote:
Oh cool this means we all get to petition ccp for rembursement for the rigs as they made them useless lol

Hope they get flooded with petitions tbh.

Ty for the reply

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2012-08-08 16:49:48 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Cargo hold should be 595.1 with two t1 rigs. that is room for more crystals!

And you can use a can for even more!

Less of a troll: If you are taking your hulk to a mining op many jumps away and need to haul as many crystals as possible:

Fit cargo expanders in the lows.
Use small or medium cans full of crystals, and remember to bring your replacement modules for the lows.
When you get to the system, refit for tank or yield as you prefer
Give the extra crystals to whoever is doing the ore hauling. If that is an orca in the belt, all of the refit stuff is easy, just use the orca.



Alternatively, GSC (or other variant) anchored in the belt works too.

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Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
#18 - 2012-08-08 17:10:03 UTC
GM Homonoia wrote:
In regards to reimbursing these rigs; we have a strict policy of not reimbursing for any changes made to ships, modules, etc. Change is simply part of the game. We did not reimburse when we nerfed nano setups, nerfed supercarriers, nerfed titans, changed POS fuel mechanics, etc. In the same way we will not be reimbursing or removing rigs on mining barges. This is a blanket policy and filing a petition will not change this in any way; all reimbursement requests tied to this change will be denied.

Haven't GMs removed rigs on request in similar circumstances in the past?

For example.

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Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#19 - 2012-08-08 17:16:39 UTC
please sticky and retitle this thread.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2012-08-08 17:22:29 UTC
Jackie Fisher wrote:
GM Homonoia wrote:
In regards to reimbursing these rigs; we have a strict policy of not reimbursing for any changes made to ships, modules, etc. Change is simply part of the game. We did not reimburse when we nerfed nano setups, nerfed supercarriers, nerfed titans, changed POS fuel mechanics, etc. In the same way we will not be reimbursing or removing rigs on mining barges. This is a blanket policy and filing a petition will not change this in any way; all reimbursement requests tied to this change will be denied.

Haven't GMs removed rigs on request in similar circumstances in the past?

For example.

The rigs still work fine.
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