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moronv
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-08 13:33:07 UTC  |  Edited by: moronv
Well it looks like my playing days have just been revived, The Hulk has finally been nerfed. Max Ore cargo 8,500 m3 cant expand it any bigger
so now i switch to macks with a fantastic 35k m3 ore hold thankyou ccpOops
Malsavias Toralen
lolpercorp
#2 - 2012-08-08 13:41:02 UTC
Seems a tad overdramatic.

No change for me as I kept my hulky tanked.
Erinn Sylvanus
NovaTech Universal
#3 - 2012-08-08 13:42:46 UTC
So fly a Mackinaw instead. 35000 m3 ore hold. Slightly less yield than a Hulk, but obviously the ore hold is most important to you if you're about to quit over it.
Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-08-08 13:45:40 UTC
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moronv
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-08 13:49:25 UTC
I see, so you all jetcan mined, none of you actually sat in a roid field and mined for 15 minute with 17199 m3 of ore in your cargo. Oh and macks have gone from 80 mill to 257 mill
Malsavias Toralen
lolpercorp
#6 - 2012-08-08 13:54:58 UTC
moronv wrote:
I see, so you all jetcan mined, none of you actually sat in a roid field and mined for 15 minute with 17199 m3 of ore in your cargo. Oh and macks have gone from 80 mill to 257 mill


And hulk prices are around 230 mill in Jita, trade the hulk in for a tiny loss.

As for Jetcan mining, well yeah that's how I got in my hauler. All three accounts miners?
moronv
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-08-08 14:00:22 UTC
Yes just swapping them now
Malsavias Toralen
lolpercorp
#8 - 2012-08-08 14:01:24 UTC
I'm thinking of doing the same, it's just way to juicy to pass up, glad you found the new nitch. Happy mining and good luck beating back the vile asteroid menace.
moronv
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-08-08 14:07:24 UTC
Well just sold 3 hulks and bought 3 macks at a loss of about 27 mill. shame i never bought them yesterday at 3 for 270 mill. I pity people that have manufactured hulks who will want to buy them now?
moronv
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-08-08 14:10:55 UTC
so will rigs increase the 28k ore hold or is 28k the max
Echo Mande
#11 - 2012-08-08 14:11:16 UTC
moronv wrote:
I see, so you all jetcan mined, none of you actually sat in a roid field and mined for 15 minute with 17199 m3 of ore in your cargo. Oh and macks have gone from 80 mill to 257 mill

No, I didn't do that.

I had an orca alt (and a second hulk) to haul my ore to station. With two hulks it took 30-40 minutes to fill the orca.

The barges and exhumers have changed, you'll have to reread the description. The ships' roles are no longer defined by what they mine but by how they mine. Take how they mine into account before choosing (and buying) your ship.

I'll have to look at the descriptions to be sure but I might stay with my hulks.

YMMV

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Caruleum Ursa
Orion Ore International
#12 - 2012-08-08 14:13:20 UTC
MINERS WERE DECEIVED by promo for the INFERNO RELEASE !

They promoted this new release as an IMPROVEMENT for MINING, but...
CCP SHRUNK THE SIZE OF HULK CARGO HOLDS FROM ~1000+ to ~350k.
HULK PILOTS cannot even keep replacement sets of mining lasers in their Cargo Holds, anymore.

HULK is now essentially WORTHLESS for multi-purpose mining.
There is no reason to train for HULK, anymore, imho.

IMHO, this will be remembered as one of the biggest nerfs in the history of EvE.

Who would ever even want to buy a HULK, anymore?
It doesn't even have HOLD big enough for the MINING CRYSTALS!
Oh, wai... it's ALSO supposed to MINE STUFF? OMG OMG OMG.

But, fear not,... YES, they buffed the smaller versions so you can now go into combat with your SKIFF and MACKINAW.
HA HA HA - I get the joke. But, it's a cruel joke for those who earn isk by mining.

Time to SELL YOUR MINING CHAR!
[Or, I guess you could buy a MACK and improve it with some T/P TECH.]

BAH, HUMBUG!
So much time WASTED in training up for the NOW WORTHLESS HULKS!
moronv
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-08-08 14:19:50 UTC
I have 3 hulk pilots 1 flys an orca and stays put in my pos he also has a mindlink + all the relevant head gear, my other 2 hulk pilots mined to the 1,7199 m3 hold which filled in 5 minutes and back to pos to unload so about so about 35 -40 mill an hour. I will try out the 3 macks i just bought and hopefully i want be to far down on iskies. But the whole thing is a joke
Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
#14 - 2012-08-08 14:20:15 UTC
Wow, ok. So if you want the marginally better yield of the Hulk then jetcan it and have a hauler. If you want to solo mine then use the Mack. No reason to be so over dramatic about it. Hulks have better yield but you have to haul to make it work. It's a change, you adapt.

For me personally, I have always jetcanned so it really doesn't matter.
Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
#15 - 2012-08-08 14:21:32 UTC
Caruleum Ursa wrote:
MINERS WERE DECEIVED by promo for the INFERNO RELEASE !

They promoted this new release as an IMPROVEMENT for MINING, but...
CCP SHRUNK THE SIZE OF HULK CARGO HOLDS FROM ~1000+ to ~350k.
HULK PILOTS cannot even keep replacement sets of mining lasers in their Cargo Holds, anymore.

HULK is now essentially WORTHLESS for multi-purpose mining.
There is no reason to train for HULK, anymore, imho.

IMHO, this will be remembered as one of the biggest nerfs in the history of EvE.

Who would ever even want to buy a HULK, anymore?
It doesn't even have HOLD big enough for the MINING CRYSTALS!
Oh, wai... it's ALSO supposed to MINE STUFF? OMG OMG OMG.

But, fear not,... YES, they buffed the smaller versions so you can now go into combat with your SKIFF and MACKINAW.
HA HA HA - I get the joke. But, it's a cruel joke for those who earn isk by mining.

Time to SELL YOUR MINING CHAR!
[Or, I guess you could buy a MACK and improve it with some T/P TECH.]

BAH, HUMBUG!
So much time WASTED in training up for the NOW WORTHLESS HULKS!


Two seconds away from an embolism - calm down.
Bad Axe
Innovative Dynamics
#16 - 2012-08-08 14:26:11 UTC
Toroup wrote:
Wow, ok. So if you want the marginally better yield of the Hulk then jetcan it and have a hauler. If you want to solo mine then use the Mack. No reason to be so over dramatic about it. Hulks have better yield but you have to haul to make it work. It's a change, you adapt.

For me personally, I have always jetcanned so it really doesn't matter.



Really?Ugh
Dave stark
#17 - 2012-08-08 14:35:01 UTC
Bad Axe wrote:
Toroup wrote:
Wow, ok. So if you want the marginally better yield of the Hulk then jetcan it and have a hauler. If you want to solo mine then use the Mack. No reason to be so over dramatic about it. Hulks have better yield but you have to haul to make it work. It's a change, you adapt.

For me personally, I have always jetcanned so it really doesn't matter.



Really?Ugh


every one with a braincell jetcan mines, before today no ships had a big enough capacity to justify not jetcan mining.
Zifrian
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-08-08 14:44:03 UTC
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Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
#19 - 2012-08-08 14:45:54 UTC
Bad Axe wrote:
Toroup wrote:
Wow, ok. So if you want the marginally better yield of the Hulk then jetcan it and have a hauler. If you want to solo mine then use the Mack. No reason to be so over dramatic about it. Hulks have better yield but you have to haul to make it work. It's a change, you adapt.

For me personally, I have always jetcanned so it really doesn't matter.



Really?Ugh


Um yeah, what did you do - cram in cargo expander rigs which then lowered your EHP all in the fear of getting flipped? So you can either lose a can of ore valued at 5-6M or you can make your 270M ship weaker and increase the chances of it getting spaced.

Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#20 - 2012-08-08 14:54:28 UTC
You obviously did not read/check what the new setup is for mining barges and exhumers.

Profurer/Skiff is now the king of tanky mining.

Retriever/Mack is now the king of cargo hold / afk mining.

Covetor/Hulk is (still) the king of Yield. It's meant to be used in large groups with an orca to provide caro space. and/or haulers to move the ore.

You want cargo hold, go for a mack, you want yield, go for a hulk, it has more yield than anything, and now also for ice mining and mercoxit mining. You just have to have a hauler to move your piles of ore.

not a nerf, definitely a boost, as they all also got increased ehp. Just learn how to use the new setups.. and if you're mining in 3 mining ships, you might want to consider using an orca and 2 hulks then, or 3 macks if you really want the cargo space.

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