Warfare & Tactics

wut?

to be fair though, if you had a web and TD then it was "g f*cking g".

Anyway, save this pic: http://i.imgur.com/msJB7.png

Oh and another pic if you ever decide to hunt SBs w/ your SBs: http://i.imgur.com/xbVvC.jpg

Thank you for this valid piece of Intel. Your actions will be remembered o7

If you're banking on Nulli sticking around after they've cashed out their LP, you're going to be disappointed.

They're actually ~45% so far this month. A drop of about +15% for a 1500+ man alliance is ******* enormous, "learning curve" or not. If you're good at this game, you're good at this game. If you're bad, you're bad.

hmmm ... i guess some bugs around ... it is really hard to get that low with efficiency.

eve-kill lags a little on the summary sheet. If you look at details for august you will see they are at 56% atm.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=kills&all_id=4037&m=8&y=2012

They are however, losing (1824) much more ships than they are killing (888).

I would like to know how you came up with 20% as your number. I'd also like to know how many afk frigates nulli has lost plexing. I'd also like to know how much of it is structures being cleared out of the south.

Also, they've been getting beat up pretty bad in their nullsec fights by the CFC. Their efficiencies there aren't very good.

Ok, instead of speculating, why not investigate!
POS Large 0 3
POS Medium 0 1
POS Modules 0 113
Pos mods mostly being guns and hardeners, you can count with 10m a piece and 200m for the large towers. That leaves us with a wooping 2b (rounded up generously).
As for nullsec fights, browsing through the 84 pages of this month on their kb, i can find one fight in n6g, where they killed 34b and lost 21b on the 4th. (that is apparently both the one at 00:00 and 18:00)
Then they had a fight on the 2nd in vg- where they killed 34b and lost 5,5b.
Yes, i went through all the 84 pages.
That leaves us with 101-34-34=33b kills in non bluefest fleetfights and with 79-5,5-21=52,5b losses. That is about 38% efficiency.
Lets continue. They have 567 frigate losses. If every single one of those was an afk plexing merlin for 10m each, that is 5,6b which leaves us at 47b (again rounded) losses and 41% efficiency.

Now all these numbers are rounded up generously in favor of nulli, but its not that big of a deal. My 20% was just a guess looking at the loss overview, but 38% is still pretty bad :P
But for the love of the amarrian goddess, please stop with the "they are new here, they have to adapt and they will be better" posts. This is not rocket science, it doesnt take a month to adapt. Nulli just sucks and everyone knows it, they openly admit it too in the threads. It is still fun to bash them.

A more critical aspect, however, is that amarr hasnt gained anything since nulli joined. They are still stuck at 30 vulnerable systems (stop sperging about how it is their tactic to flip them all at once, this is not my point) for a week. To achieve t5 they will need 56 systems, 5 of which they already have, so 51 need to be vulnerable. No progress for a week, hmmmm.....

QCATs has managed to kill 23.4B in Nulli Merlin farmers. With an 83% efficiency due to the fact most can not shoot back :p


In all seriousness though nulli isn't that bad, they, like every other alliance, have their share of bads. They simply lack the small gang experience that people like us have been excelling at for years. I have to give them props for fighting when they do, because it rarely works out for them. QCATs also haven't given them a full fleet engagement, which I am sure they would be much better at. Would love to see how it would work out, but we only have 10 or so people deployed to the area, so being severely outnumbered is a bit of an issue.

I wonder would it would be just in low sec though. I imagine most of the kills they are getting is in big fleets in nul sec.