Science & Industry

Answered in a serious manner: CCP requiring me to invest in a) a new game (Dust) and b) a game console that I would use ONLY for one purpose in one game would honestly have me reconsidering my commitment to CCP Games in general.

Edit: working on the assumption that DUST will NOT be free.

I think you're missing the key point blood was making with his comment.

Removing PI from eve (and making it available in dust) is still removing it from the game. It becomes an items that is equal to NPC items with mostly outrageous prices. It doesn't matter its still sold from dust players. It would literally mean anyone who has a POS (any wh corps, vast majority of nullsec, etc) would now need to rely on some outside game to supply their POS equipment, as well as POS fuel. At that point whats the point of evening having it available in dust; it might as well just be sold by NPC's.

There is a fine line between bridging the two games. Having the two games interact with one another is a great idea, but removing parts of one game, and then expecting (assuming, hoping) the other game supply's them, and at regular levels is just a tinder box waiting to ignite. Why not move all ship manufacturing to dust? Or ammo, or mods, etc.

Currently players can buy pos items or pos fuel. If these prices go out of control we can make them ourselves/mine ice. If they want to save money they can make it themselves, or they can sell it. By removing the ability to make the items in eve players would then be in a situation where if players in dust just don't want to do PI the entire galaxy starbase infrastructure would collapse. It would also have huge effects on t2 production, all manufacturing in general, move materials, wh items, bpo research, etc.

Imho PI must still be managed by eve players because we are PC superrior gaming race. :D PS3 shooter gamers would not be appealed by such a long term and nonviolent task like is PI management.

PI is currently my main income source and i would be seriously enraged by its loss. I live in sov space so i dont think that some small people can just like that land in the middle of our teritory, conquer planet and start selling PI products.

I think it might start in highsex where is just no way how to compete with someone else setting up PI in your spot on the planet. (in lowsec you can compete by shooting and setting up POCO and in sov by taking soverginity)

When PI and Dust were first talked about, people were saying "Will I have to worry that Ill wake up one morning and find all my planet based assets were blown up by a 10 year old with a PS3?" CCP has said no. I do PI in High sec and in W. Both are places where Dust is not currently scheduled to be. My operations makes me 2 billion a month. So yes, I would not want that arbitrarily blown up by a 10 year old with a PS3.

But what they have said is there may be something.

For example if you set up PI in a district controlled my friendly Dusters, you get more production.

If dusters could set up their own PI installations in parallel with eggers... there better be new ways to use all the stuff produced or it would crash the market. But I could see that happening.

Currently there is no way to transfer PI material from one player to another without launching it from a planet. Maybe that could be a place for dusters: intra-planetary transport.

I could also see that if a planet district was controlled by hostile dusters, then I would be blocked from placing PI there, although existing stuff would remain. This would allow dusters to take a planet and charge rent.

There can be interaction with dusters getting access to resources without taking them away from us eggers. I await to see what actually happens.

No. PI is loose change. A bit of spare ISK for not much effort.

Dust will have the ability to impact a handful of planets at best. CCP is not going to put a basic mechanic of the Eve Cash cow at risk for some Free to Play stuff. While there could be some interaction or issues related someones PI set up. Considering the hundreds of thousands of PI set ups running Dust 514 impact is nominal.

At worst, if you hit one of my PI set ups. I'm out about 20 mins of work to light off a new one. That should be some context to chew on.

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Keep in mind accounts paid with plex are paid accounts. Someone bought a plex with cold hard cash. It doesn't effect CCP's bottom line if it wasn't the player who owns the account.

I actually this would add a very interesting aspect to PI however I think ony in warring SOV areas this would be apliciable cause if a alliance has a system locked down it would be a little onesided to allow DUST players to manipulate the planet without being in the alliance.

For Faction Warfare, the Dust players automagically get to their destination.
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Planetary bombardment by capsuleers requires you to have one of the dust bunnies using a target painter of some sort. Source.

This implies that for the first few development cycles, there will be no way to affect folks playing Dust without having a PS3 and playing it.

Dust plus Walk-In-Station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRyXDlZKwgA