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destroying the hulk advantage
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Mericon
Nora Tech
#1 - 2012-08-08 02:00:02 UTC
I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Im a maxed out minner with a alt that is a maxed orca boost and a roqual pilot. I have a large portion of skill points dedicated to this. I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers. but the inprovment to the small and mid size minning ships are so great why would any one want to fly a hulk.
if you kill the hulks massive benifits why the hell fly it its not worth traning for it. I feel robed. I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed always felt it a privlage to play this game. but if you do this to the hulk good buy game.
Rengerel en Distel
#2 - 2012-08-08 02:02:49 UTC
it still has the max yield if fit for max yield. if you have $20 and the guy next to you has $18 do you feel "robed" as well?

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Pankas Carter
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-08 02:03:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Pankas Carter
Minning? Robed? Privlage? Good buy game?

Ignoring all that, this is yet another gank wine in disguise.

0/100.

Roll

Just in case you're serious: Go train another ship. Nobody is forcing you to use hulks.

Adama: Starbuck, what do you hear? Starbuck: Nothing but the rain. Adama: Then grab your gun and bring in the cat.
Shukuzen Kiraa
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-08-08 02:05:03 UTC
Mericon wrote:
I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels


Hulk still out mines everything, still the king of the mining ships. Not sure what you have to complain about.
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#5 - 2012-08-08 02:07:18 UTC
Mericon wrote:
I feel robed.
... and wizard-hatted!

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-08-08 02:14:03 UTC
Mericon wrote:
I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Im a maxed out minner with a alt that is a maxed orca boost and a roqual pilot. I have a large portion of skill points dedicated to this. I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers. but the inprovment to the small and mid size minning ships are so great why would any one want to fly a hulk.
if you kill the hulks massive benifits why the hell fly it its not worth traning for it. I feel robed. I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed always felt it a privlage to play this game. but if you do this to the hulk good buy game.


Perhaps you can mine some tissues?

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Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-08 02:16:37 UTC
What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well. Not sure what changes have been made to tank but I dont think too much has changed here. The Procurer/Skiff is now the anti Hulkagedon ship. It has the tank that all the miners wanted on the Hulk.

-Hulk is the king of mining yield (HUGE Yield on EVERYTHING)
-Mackinaw is the afk miner (HUGE Ore Hold)
-Skiff is the anti Hulkagedon ship (HUGE Tank)

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#8 - 2012-08-08 02:16:38 UTC
Pankas Carter wrote:
Minning? Robed? Privlage? Good buy game?

Ignoring all that, this is yet another gank wine in disguise.

0/100.

Roll

It's like he wrote it out in plain English and then went back to deliberately misspell a few words.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Attica
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-08-08 02:19:10 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
Mericon wrote:
I feel robed.
... and wizard-hatted!



HAHHAAHA classic !

Pirate tears are yummier than carebear tears for they come from the deeper well of anguish.
Cadfael Maelgwyn
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-08-08 02:20:03 UTC
I wonder how many wardecs will result from that awful post...
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#11 - 2012-08-08 02:28:58 UTC
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
I wonder how many wardecs will result from that awful post...
You won't be able to break his skiff anyway. Oh never mind, he'll still be sitting in his hulk complaining that it doesn't tank better than a skiff, carry on.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2012-08-08 02:35:15 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
I wonder how many wardecs will result from that awful post...
You won't be able to break his skiff anyway. Oh never mind, he'll still be sitting in his hulk complaining that it doesn't tank better than a skiff, carry on.

Oh dear, looks like some BUFFZ are needed.

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Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#13 - 2012-08-08 02:39:01 UTC
Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:
Mericon wrote:
I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels


Hulk still out mines everything, still the king of the mining ships. Not sure what you have to complain about.


Hulk is going to be a group exhumer, shining with Orca support. In this situation, Hulk SMASH



rocks, that is.

John Hancock
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#14 - 2012-08-08 02:39:18 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.



Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it.

... What next ??
Frying Doom
#15 - 2012-08-08 02:41:07 UTC
Things change, I have 4 maxed exhumer characters and frankly I'm happy I can trade of some yield for a great tank.

Will I use a Hulk now? No thanks. For those that do crave Max yield they just need corp mates in combat ships to kill the gankers fast.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#16 - 2012-08-08 02:42:31 UTC
GordonO wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.



Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it.

Not after tonight the mack and skiff loose those bonuses.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-08-08 02:42:57 UTC
GordonO wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.



Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it.



You sure? Check out the patch notes - no bonuses for either. Unless the patch notes are wrong.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#18 - 2012-08-08 02:44:07 UTC
Mericon wrote:
I have recently read the up grades to all the minning ships. The hulk should be King of all minning vessels Im a maxed out minner with a alt that is a maxed orca boost and a roqual pilot. I have a large portion of skill points dedicated to this. I agree that minning ships need beter protection from gankers. but the inprovment to the small and mid size minning ships are so great why would any one want to fly a hulk.
if you kill the hulks massive benifits why the hell fly it its not worth traning for it. I feel robed. I have always paid cash for my eve time and never plexed always felt it a privlage to play this game. but if you do this to the hulk good buy game.


THE HULK IS STILL KING OF YIELD, THE SAME SKILLS FOR THE HULK HELP WITH ALL THE BARGES, YOU ARE EITHER VERY DUMB OR A VERY WHINY. SHUT. THE. ****. UP

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Tragedy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-08-08 02:48:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tragedy
Frying Doom wrote:
Things change, I have 4 maxed exhumer characters and frankly I'm happy I can trade of some yield for a great tank.

Will I use a Hulk now? No thanks. For those that do crave Max yield they just need corp mates in combat ships to kill the gankers fast.

Its amazing how many miners don't understand alpha

edited because the forums ate my post.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#20 - 2012-08-08 02:49:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
GordonO wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
What everyone else has said. Hulk is still a beast at pure mining. As a matter afact, it mines everything better than the other ships (Ice, Mercoxit) as well.



Wrong... A mack will out mine a Hulk when ice mining.. and a skiff is the best for mercoxit. they are bonused for it.


Wrong, that's the current situation everything changes Weds 8 Aug

inferno 1.2 patch notes wrote:

Procurer
Role is now mining barge with superior defenses
Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to shield hit points
Special bonus allows its 1 mining turret to have the mining output of 3 mining turrets
Slot layout: 1 High, 4 Mid, 2 Low
Fittings: 45 PWG, 250 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6000 / 5000 / 5500
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25
Signature radius: 200
Ore hold capacity: 12000
Cargo capacity: 350

Retriever
Role is now mining barge with superior ore hold capacity
Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to ore hold capacity
Special bonus allows its 2 mining turrets to have the output of 3 mining turrets
Slot layout: 2 High, 1 Mid, 3 Low
Fittings: 35 PWG, 235 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2300 / 1700 / 2000
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25
Signature radius: 250
Ore hold capacity: 22000
Cargo capacity: 450

Covetor
Role is now a mining barge with superior mining output
Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 4% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 3% reduction in Ice Harvester duration
Slot layout: 3 High, 1 Mid, 2 Low
Fittings: 35 PWG, 255 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1700 / 1300 / 1500
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
Signature radius: 150
Ore hold capacity: 7000
Cargo capacity: 350

Skiff
Role is now exhumer with superior defenses
Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to shield hit points, 5% bonus to all shield resistances
Exhumer skill bonus per level: 1% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 1% reduction in Ice Harvester duration
Special bonus allows its 1 mining turret to have the mining output of 3 mining turrets
Slot layout: 1 High, 5 Mid, 2 Low
Fittings: 50 PWG, 270 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6500 / 5500 / 6000
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
Signature radius: 200
Ore hold capacity: 15000
Cargo capacity: 350

Mackinaw
Role is now exhumer with superior ore hold capacity
Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 5% bonus to ore hold capacity, 5% bonus to all shield resistances
Exhumer skill bonus per level: 1% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 1% reduction in Ice Harvester duration
Special bonus allows its 2 mining turrets to have the output of 3 mining turrets
Slot layout: 2 High, 4 Mid, 3 Low
Fittings: 35 PWG, 270 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 3000 / 2300 / 2700
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
Signature radius: 250
Ore hold capacity: 28000Cargo capacity: 450

Hulk
Role is now exhumer with superior mining output
Mining Barge skill bonus per level: 3% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 5% bonus to all shield resistances
Exhumer skill bonus per level: 3% bonus to Strip Miner yield, 4% reduction in Ice Harvester duration
Slot layout: 3 High, 4 Mid, 2 Low
Fittings: 35 PWG, 300 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2200 / 1800 / 2000
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
Signature radius: 150
Ore hold capacity: 8500
Cargo capacity: 350


The current bonus's are changing in line with the above, source

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