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Is it normal for my heart beating to raise when in pvp?
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Eternal Error
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-08-08 00:38:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternal Error
Consult your cardiologist prior to engaging in PvP in Eve Online.

Also, I have forwarded this thread to the FDA and requested a black box warning notifying users of the potential risks and side effects of using Eve Online (nausea, vomiting, elevated blood pressure, elevated heart rate, death, and/or exploding).
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#42 - 2012-08-08 00:41:00 UTC
Xaric Dreklore wrote:
I was yesterday doing my first fleet battle and for some reason my heart was raiseing it felt really hard to focus on action's is this normal?


Until bitter vet cures it, yes this is normal.

PS. Don't go to null sec, having your losses handed back to you for free from fleet ops, will stop you giving a **** about dying. 80% of the fun of fighting is the risk of meaningful loss.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-08-08 00:43:41 UTC
hell I get that way when I am pvping in a t1 frigate... idk why and don't like it.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-08-08 01:02:54 UTC
Xaric Dreklore wrote:
I was yesterday doing my first fleet battle and for some reason my heart was raiseing it felt really hard to focus on action's is this normal?


That depends, where was your other hand?

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#45 - 2012-08-08 01:04:52 UTC
For the first little while I felt this aswell, it'll pass with constant pvp...

...
Theron Urian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-08-08 01:14:23 UTC
If you get a huge adrenaline dump and it makes your thinking fuzzy or gives you the shakes, I HIGHLY recommend joining RvB.

It is fairly cheep (mostly frigs and cruisers), and has loose rules of engagement (Try to ship down if needed, equal fights, no pod killing, ect.).

Once you get no reaction from RvB its time to move up to small gang or solo work.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-08-08 01:15:35 UTC
That rush was both what initially attracted me to pvp in eve and what made me so bad at it. It has since mostly worn off, which makes me better.

On the other hand, sometimes I still get it when I'm doing something new, even if that thing has very little risk. The first freighter I safariid had this effect on me, even though there was not a damn thing the frieghter could have done.

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Bubanni
Corus Aerospace
#48 - 2012-08-08 01:39:31 UTC
When you get the shakes it means your a real eve player, once you had enough pvp experience to still focus, that is when you know your getting better and more confident

I don't really get the shakes anymore... I get smug faced instead Lol
For a while now I mainly done tackle catching stuff 200 km away before they realise they should have warped... I can't stop smiling when that happens

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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-08-08 01:52:14 UTC
mm i wish i had that i started pvp sinds the born of my char so i dont care about losing 1 ship or 200.... But now its getting older and losing my shiny implants well little bit of heard beating. Also notice i get it warm everytime i try to sneak up to some one.
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#50 - 2012-08-08 03:49:00 UTC
Lojak 2501
Unitum Investigationis et Progressus
#51 - 2012-08-08 07:14:42 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
You were THERE.


best 1 yet

but all trolling aside?
yea was normal for me too and i LOVED IT. do it more and its get rather addictive
and pvp in other games becomes "meh"
Zera Kerrigan
The 420th Token
#52 - 2012-08-08 07:18:26 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Seek medical attention immediately
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#53 - 2012-08-08 09:26:36 UTC
Awesome thread Cool Welcome to EVE! A game that has some magic things done so right, that it fools your body to think that you are there. Savour that feeling, ride the wave, this is excellent value for the subscription money! To be able to log on pretty much whenever for a very modest monthly fee and get this kind of excitement at the comfort of your home is really something special.

Vincent Athena wrote:
There is one thing you should know about the Adrenaline Rush. Not everyone gets it. That is they get the adrenaline, but not the feeling of euphoria after.

The Rush is a good felling one gets with and after a burst of adrenaline associated with an exciting experience, like PvP combat. Not everyone gets The Rush. Some get no pleasure from adrenaline, and some actually feel bad or sick from it. According to Dr. Drew Pinsky, the difference between these people is genetic. You are born to get The Rush, or you are not. The result is some players will not enjoy PvP and actively seek to avoid it, and no amount of game tweaking will change that, because game tweaking will not change their genes. After all this is a game, people will tend to avoid game activities that make them sick. Instead they do cooperative activities, industry, missions and the like, or just play as solo players.

People who do not get The Rush can also enjoy activities like fishing, a sport that is more popular that any computer game, even WoW. Or puzzle games, or solitaire, or Golf (one of the most popular pastimes on the planet). These players like an activity that occupies the mind, is relaxing, and gives one a gentle feeling of accomplishment as they watch the isk pile up. For them, a certain amount of repetition is not boring, its reassuring and relaxing.


I replied to this same post in some other thread a while back, but the discussion died then.

The actual term for the bodily reaction caused by pvp is the flight-or-flight response. It's a natural state of your body, launched by a stressful situation and aims to prep you to cope better when threatened- one could argue that without it, we wouldn't be here now, sable tigers would have eaten our ancestors :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response

Anyway, while the response has immediate adverse effects that can be experienced as feelings of sickness, it is not connected with an inherent negative emotional experience. Much like after an extreme workout, your whole body hurts like hell, but you still feel good in your head, why? Because of conditioning. You know from your previous experience, that this terrible state is good for you. Your body starts to connect the pain with positive emotions.

I believe the same conditioning works with flight-or-flight response. Obviously previous experiences and especially those gathered during childhood have a huge impact on how you take it. In EVE, if your fight-or-flight is connected with losses, you subconsciously connect the response with negative emotions... but if you win, you will start associating the rush of adrenaline and hundreds of other hormones with the sweetness of victory. Turning EVE into a promoter of eustress,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustress

I'm not denying that there wouldn't be any individual, genetic differences, and science certainly doesn't know what all the other hormones do to each person, but I do think that it is possible to condition yourself to enjoy the fight-or-flight response.

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GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-08-08 09:33:42 UTC
Caroline Cosmos wrote:
Natasha Mendel wrote:
Wait till you survive a fight with less than 25% structure.

That really gets the adrenaline going.



Nothing better than coming out of a fight on fire :)


Flying into a fight already on fire.
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-08-08 10:52:32 UTC
Xaric Dreklore wrote:
I was yesterday doing my first fleet battle and for some reason my heart was raiseing it felt really hard to focus on action's is this normal?


It is serious when you fell presure on the lower part of your back. Shocked

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#56 - 2012-08-08 11:06:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarn Kugisa
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Seek medical attention immediately


I was reminded of the Half-Life HEV Suit
MAJOR LACERATIONS DETECTED
SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION

Well I'm wearing this suit than can protect me from direct rocket hits
and It tells me to seek medical attention when I get a laceration?

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#57 - 2012-08-08 12:06:11 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Caroline Cosmos wrote:
Natasha Mendel wrote:
Wait till you survive a fight with less than 25% structure.

That really gets the adrenaline going.



Nothing better than coming out of a fight on fire :)


Flying into a fight already on fire.


Burning your guns out, running to station while buddy keeps tackle, come back with offline guns. Lol
Doddy
Excidium.
#58 - 2012-08-08 14:23:52 UTC
Xaric Dreklore wrote:
I was yesterday doing my first fleet battle and for some reason my heart was raiseing it felt really hard to focus on action's is this normal?


Not much point playing eve for anything else tbh.
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#59 - 2012-08-08 14:26:12 UTC
Xaric Dreklore wrote:
I was yesterday doing my first fleet battle and for some reason my heart was raiseing it felt really hard to focus on action's is this normal?

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Suqq Madiq
#60 - 2012-08-08 15:05:02 UTC
Merovee wrote:
This, my first fight, barely made it, wife looked over and asked "are you alright dear?" as I was huffing and had a death grip on the desk with the biggest smile on my face. Best 1 minute EVER!


Best minute ever? Your poor wife.