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Could EVE ever be a game played with one toon per player?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#41 - 2012-08-07 17:47:38 UTC
XxRTEKxX wrote:
There is a restriction in place that prevents a trial account and subscribed account from being logged on at the same time on the same pc. They could easily extend that to subscribed accounts.
I don't know about you, but I have four devices able to play EVE in this room alone…

…so even if they tried to cut down on multiboxing (which they wouldn't for the reasons you list), they still wouldn't be able to enforce one character per player: it would have to be one character per IP, which would restrict multi-player households and any other networked with a shared external address (and which would only inconvenience people in networks who want to play without actually stopping those who want to run multiple characters… so we're back to square one).
XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing
#42 - 2012-08-07 18:00:40 UTC  |  Edited by: XxRTEKxX
Tippia wrote:
XxRTEKxX wrote:
There is a restriction in place that prevents a trial account and subscribed account from being logged on at the same time on the same pc. They could easily extend that to subscribed accounts.
I don't know about you, but I have four devices able to play EVE in this room alone…

…so even if they tried to cut down on multiboxing (which they wouldn't for the reasons you list), they still wouldn't be able to enforce one character per player: it would have to be one character per IP, which would restrict multi-player households and any other networked with a shared external address (and which would only inconvenience people in networks who want to play without actually stopping those who want to run multiple characters… so we're back to square one).


Yeah it would have to be ip restrictive.
Roc Wieler
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-08-07 18:43:52 UTC
There is only Roc Wieler. I don't think this universe could handle more of me. Shocked

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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#44 - 2012-08-07 20:19:11 UTC
been playing EVE for 7 years one this one character, never had any problems doing anything, all ya need is friends.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-08-07 20:37:06 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Sure it could.

It would just be impossible to enforce.


This, cost will overrule practicality.
And just like any laws.
They keep the honest people honest but if someone really wants to break the rules they will.
So who really would get punished for such a rule.


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Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#46 - 2012-08-07 20:42:51 UTC
I'm a one character kind of guy. I made a second account and can hardly bring myself to play it. I'll probably get rid of if soon in fact.

I find it much more fun, immersive and interesting to play on 1 character. Sure, I actually need friends to do certain things, but to me, it is a small price to pay for the unique experience of having my character represent 'me' in this galaxy. No other game that I have played comes this close to that feeling. I personally believe Eve would be a much better game if it were somehow possible to limit things to 1 character per person.

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ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-08-07 20:52:19 UTC
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Pankas Carter
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-08-07 20:56:45 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
I'm a one character kind of guy. I made a second account and can hardly bring myself to play it. I'll probably get rid of if soon in fact.

I find it much more fun, immersive and interesting to play on 1 character. Sure, I actually need friends to do certain things, but to me, it is a small price to pay for the unique experience of having my character represent 'me' in this galaxy. No other game that I have played comes this close to that feeling. I personally believe Eve would be a much better game if it were somehow possible to limit things to 1 character per person.


Agreed.

All these tactics of using alts for things is cheating, IMO.

You can't be in more than one place at once. Why should your avatar?

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Korsiri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-08-07 21:51:27 UTC
Pankas Carter wrote:
Maxpie wrote:
I'm a one character kind of guy. I made a second account and can hardly bring myself to play it. I'll probably get rid of if soon in fact.

I find it much more fun, immersive and interesting to play on 1 character. Sure, I actually need friends to do certain things, but to me, it is a small price to pay for the unique experience of having my character represent 'me' in this galaxy. No other game that I have played comes this close to that feeling. I personally believe Eve would be a much better game if it were somehow possible to limit things to 1 character per person.


Agreed.

All these tactics of using alts for things is cheating, IMO.

You can't be in more than one place at once. Why should your avatar?

I don't think it's cheating - that's my own opinion, obviously.
If you have two avatars, well, then obviously you can be in two places at once. It's just kind of spurious to say you can only control one because that's how it is in real life. In real life, you die and you're dead. You can't respawn from a clone.

I've never been a single toon kind of person - I enjoy many aspects of games and typically the only way to do that is to have several toons.

Eve isn't really an exception because while you can train everything on one toon, it's harder to enjoy two different playstyles simultaneously on the same toon because of the skill time. I'm not saying the skill time is bad! I just think it makes it easier to say have an industry toon on one account and a missioner, say, on another.

I don't think it's any different or "cheating" to have extra accounts to do things like scouting /me shrugs. It's a paid for account supporting the game, and as long as it's not a RMT or something like that, I'm fine with it.

Anyway just my two cents.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#50 - 2012-08-07 21:56:48 UTC
Korsiri wrote:
Pankas Carter wrote:
All these tactics of using alts for things is cheating, IMO.

You can't be in more than one place at once. Why should your avatar?

I don't think it's cheating - that's my own opinion, obviously.

I think it's CCP's as well. Look at the Power of Two description/"ad" when it comes around again.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#51 - 2012-08-07 22:20:54 UTC
I bought a second account with the 'power of two' offer earlier this year.

Poor soul is going rusty from lack of use.

My original account is enough for me.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-08-07 22:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentamon
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
I bought a second account with the 'power of two' offer earlier this year.

Poor soul is going rusty from lack of use.

My original account is enough for me.


I agree. The game is a lot more fun concentrating on one character and interacting with other real players. Two or more accounts tends to make you antisocial and Eve feels like a job.

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Rented
Hunter Heavy Industries
#53 - 2012-08-07 23:39:31 UTC
I played with one account for a couple years and made a second account merely to free this one from any 'Isk generating duties' so that I may play as fast or slow (most often very slow) as I'd like.

I think EVE could work just fine as a 1-account-per-person game provided there was some redesign done for some features... I've little to no interest in flying supercapitals but I imagine it'd be extremely aggrevating without at least some changes. But as has already been indicated, it's not technically feasible.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#54 - 2012-08-08 00:04:18 UTC
Rented wrote:
I played with one account for a couple years and made a second account merely to free this one from any 'Isk generating duties' so that I may play as fast or slow (most often very slow) as I'd like.

I think EVE could work just fine as a 1-account-per-person game provided there was some redesign done for some features... I've little to no interest in flying supercapitals but I imagine it'd be extremely aggrevating without at least some changes. But as has already been indicated, it's not technically feasible.

You mean never logging on? Yeah, space coffins are like that sometimes.

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Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-08-08 01:48:52 UTC
I roll with one account. The only problem is the lack of independence that comes with having multiple accounts. But at the end of the day you just gotta find people to help you with the parts you'd use alts for.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#56 - 2012-08-08 04:40:19 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Yeah getting stuck with the boring duties would suck badly if you only had one account. Ill second the scalability of multiple accounts in terms of isk generation over multiple avenues. Some suit themselves better to more accounts while some less. I know Id be bored out of my tree if I had to only run one account now.

Its not something enforceable and I though I think even from an RP perspective itd add a huge volume of depth and accountability to a person its just not feasible to do. Thered be no more scamming alts, pirating would be the only thing you could do and sec status would mean something again as well as a LOT of other things. What would be lost instantly are spies and corporate espionage as a whole with API requirements as well as cyno alts for capital toons. So tbh a vast majority of the nefarious actions that CCP encourages would be broken right off the bat if they could enforce it somehow.

Player turnover would be higher as youd be stuck in your character more and a bad decision, like real life, would follow you around forever. So someone just out for the lolz of something wouldnt stick around after the funny aspect has worn off and they cant do anything with the toon for whatever reason and being locked out of content due to actions in game.


Hardly, it just means that pirates, Awoxers, scammers and that would gain a reputation.

That would be the flip side. But once known your target selection becomes almost null and void. Youd get your one big scam or awox and then youd be history and noone would ever talk to you again or let you join their corp.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#57 - 2012-08-08 04:52:01 UTC
1 account per person would make things interesting, I'd think a ton of services that are easily done by alts more or less removed would add a lot of player niches. but at the same time I'd say a whole bunch of those are also boring as hell.

I'd say I'm at the point where I could probably drop down to one character rather comfortably. and I only really use 2 at a time. I'd probably have to train a few industry skills, I'm pretty proud of my 250 industry sp, but I guess I could live with ruining that. but at the same time I'm not sure I'd want to see it go one account/character only. mulitboxing seems to be here to stay in the mmo world.

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Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-08-08 05:30:00 UTC
One account, but I plan to use all three toons on it eventually. Doing this mostly to keep clone costs down, so after I finish this toons combat training, I can train a second toon in industry and trade. Since I will be using a toon on same account, I don't get a training time increase, so only benefit is combat toon has lower SP total, and industry toon can operate independent of my combat toons sec status.

Basically, multiple characters will allow me to experience more of the game. So I am not against multiple accounts; however, I do think neutral RR and off grid boosting, while claiming to 1v1 are kind of bullshit. But lots of things are kind of bullshit in Eve and that is what makes it beautiful, so I will cope.

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Ken Sunji
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-08-08 05:40:02 UTC
Two of my accounts generate isk to pay for plex for 6 accounts, and 5 out of the 6 work to pay for my terribad PVP habit. Without the 2nd account, there would be no isk on the scale I require.

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Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#60 - 2012-08-08 05:41:43 UTC
I started playing around March 2007. In September 2011 I finally caves and created a Hauler alt. I needed it to move ships around the FW battlefield.