Skill Discussions

You aren't forced to train anything. If you run out of things you want to train on your toon start a new one.


But on topic: If they were to put advanced skills in they would have to give very minimal gains. I am talking 1-2% per level with very high training times, think rank 5 and up. You would also need high entry barriers, AWU 5, supports at 5, etc. This would help keep the damage output disparity between low and high SP characters to a minimum, but it would still make it worth while for a high SP toon to train if they are specializing in a given area.

As nice as throughing the kitchen sink or your out of ammo turret might be, doesn't the game already have enough kinetic damage in it?

This wouldn't be kinetic damage. It would be Ceramic Damage. A new damage type to which there are no resists, but it's also sub-par damage compared to the others.

^^This

"Does not apply to laser or mining crystals."

Not quite everyone.

Advanced Launcher Rigging (and others)
Reduces rig penalties by a further 10% per level. Leaving no penalties at Rank V
Pre-requisites: Requires Launcher Rigging V and Jury Rigging V

Like hell i'll start a new char on a new account after spending 9 years training the current skill set this char has.....I'm a hard core eve enthusiast, but not hard core enough to dual box on 2 seperate accounts at the same time.....I've been paying for the game the entire time and it's not my problem that CCP diverted resources to walking in stations and Dust 514, at the expense of the former having no timeline to introduce the remaining content, or the latter being exclusive to the PS3 console wich i don't own( and don't intend to)....


And keep in mind that the new consoles for both microsoft and sony are coming out next year, and we have no clue about backwards compatibility with existing games for the PS3, actually playing on a PS4 at all, so where does this place Dust 514 exactly?


The cost of these 2 projects?.....Delaying content like more T3 ships and modules and advancing the storyline for the veteran crowd of the game, wich were the very people keeping this game alive in those critical first 2 years of it's existance even with all the bugs and exploits it had back then( yes, a lot more of them than now), and we are being forgotten big time.

WTB blasters with 2.5 seconds reload time.

*insert turret type* operation: -4% reduced capacitor need per level for weapons requiring *insert turret type* specialization skill.
Essentially another "controlled bursts" skill, which when trained to level 5, will mean that your T2 Pulse/beam.blaster/rail will have the same cap use as a meta 4 weapon.

Precision gunnery: -3% to weapon turret signature resolution per level (big guns hit small targets a little better when they can actually track them)

You're right some parts, except the part about it not going my way as if anything, i want even tougher challenges that are harder to achieve than what i've managed so far, and believe you me i've managed a lot in the 9+ years i've been playing the game, so there's not much left to aim for in terms of objectives....Money, skillpoints, fancy ships, best hardwires, best implants?....I got it all.


CCP once stated that the average EVE player plays this game for 9 months before quitting the game, and it seems that the content is geared precisely for those playing relatively short time periods, as there hasn't been content for those playing long term like i have, and i'll happily admit we're a minority and it seems CCP takes the old players for granted and that they'll be happy doing the same stuff for years, so they don't really have to add new content that benefits a small group wich will take time to develop......


They want to develop stuff that makes an impact for as many as possible.



Unfortunately, i know a fair amount of people that started when i did, and these days only log on to change skills, so i don't see them for weeks at at time, or have already quit the game since they too had nothing left to aim for either...


Did you know some aliances start wars these days out of sheer boredom, and it isn't for access to more valuable moons, or officer spawns, or better mining belts or just simply for the potential to become richer still, as they have money up the wazoo so it becomes doing it just for the killmails and overall stats???.....What's wrong with this picture?



There was supposed to be 5 tech levels eventually, and even the jove becoming much more than just part of the storyline, so what happened?....At the pace T3 is being introduced( 2 years since cruisers have been introduced), i'll probably die in real life before all of the classes are in game, never mind tech 4 or tech 5, and who knows what's happening with the jove or if CCP still have plans to make them more relevant in game.


That's been the storyline with CCP really.....Make promises for future content and only deliver them partially or have yet to deliver it at all period, even after 9 years.

I mean 5 tech levels, not the intermediate module classes in between, wich aren't a tech level per se, but based on T1 gear....


As for power creep, that's going to be unavoidable for the long term players that takes the challenge of playing the game for close to a decade now, and while they do become more powerfull, keep in mind that the insurance payout has been adjusted so that the more powerfull the ship, the shittier the payout becomes even at platinum level, and also keep in mind that i don't mind that the system CCP implemented with T3 cruisers, continues where if your T3~T4~T5 blows up, you also lose a level of the highest trained skill related to that ship.


If a Tech 3 battleship blows up, not only will it be expensive to replace and the insurance pays peanuts even if it is platinum level, but it'll also be a pain in the ass if the pilot has the skill maxed to lvl 5, and it turns out to be a rank 20 skill.......There goes another 70 days of training to take it from lvl 4 to lvl 5 all over again, so it's not without it's risks too and it's exactly this that the old player is missing, the risk of losing something that's not easy to replace and will be a pain to retrain to the same level....Even EVE's death penalty is a joke for veteran players since they can afford new clones and implants and ships several dozen times over( some even hundreds of times, that's how loaded they are).



The ultimate way to balance out it's advantage is for the team intending to blow it up to bring a lot more ships to counter it anyhow, as EVE has never been about fair fights in the first place, and it's up to the owner of said T3 battleship to gamble and engage that gang or not.