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European Gun Laws: Welcome to America!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-08-02 00:27:33 UTC
Accuracy nazi (rhymes with not-si P) time....

The jugular is a vein, the carotid is the artery (and there are 2 on each side, an internal and external carotid)

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#42 - 2012-08-02 15:11:00 UTC
Tian Jade wrote:
Stupid forums ate my post..



The rate of homicides is 5x higher in the US then in Germany and in many european countries police forces do not even carry firearms while on regular duty. There are reasons for this but I will give you another example you gun maniacs always fail to account.

Two people get into an argument while being drunk, the situation gets out of hand and A hits B into the face. Now B is also drunk, really mad at A .. and armed with a gun.

I know you will now argue that B would never be so stupid as to start a fight with A since A is armed but people are rarely that reasonable, especially not while being drunk.

Without a gun the worst that might happen might be a broken nose and a few bruises but with a gun in the hands of one of the parties involved, situation might escalate into something worse.




Britain is a country with stronger gun control laws than the United States, and lower murder rates. But Mexico, Russia and Brazil are also countries with stronger gun control laws than the United States – and their murder rates are much higher than ours. Israel and Switzerland have even higher rates of gun ownership than the United States, and much lower murder rates than ours.

Even the British example does not stand up very well under scrutiny. The murder rate in New York has been several times that in London for more than two centuries – and, for most of that time, neither place had strong gun control laws. New York had strong gun control laws years before London did, but New York still had several times the murder rate of London.

It was in the later decades of the 20th century that the British government clamped down with severe gun control laws, disarming virtually the entire law-abiding citizenry. Gun crimes, including murder, rose as the public was disarmed.

Meanwhile, murder rates in the United States declined during the same years when murder rates in Britain were rising, which were also years when Americans were buying millions more guns per year.

The real problem, both in discussions of mass shootings and in discussions of gun control, is that too many people are too committed to a vision to allow mere facts to interfere with their beliefs, and the sense of superiority that those beliefs give them.

Any discussion of facts is futile when directed at such people. All anyone can do is warn others about the propaganda.

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Jim Era
#43 - 2012-08-02 18:12:39 UTC
What about the guy in China that stabbed and killed 8 people?
Thats what happens when you don't bring a gun to a knife fight.

Wat™
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#44 - 2012-08-02 18:39:56 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
What about the guy in China that stabbed and killed 8 people?
Thats what happens when you don't bring a gun to a knife fight.



And this is what happens when you do.

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Jim Era
#45 - 2012-08-02 19:14:53 UTC
o7 **** ye America

Wat™
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#46 - 2012-08-03 01:21:03 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
What about the guy in China that stabbed and killed 8 people?
Thats what happens when you don't bring a gun to a knife fight.



The victims brought their helpess soft asses to a knife fight.


Did you know that even intermediate level knife skills will make you more dangerous than 95 percent of the rest of the world (if they don't bring guns)?


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pussnheels
Viziam
#47 - 2012-08-03 05:09:03 UTC
Sometimes i have the feeling that some of you americans are convinced that the brits are going to march up the hill again at Bunker Hill

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#48 - 2012-08-03 05:14:20 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
Sometimes i have the feeling that some of you americans are convinced that the brits are going to march up the hill again at Bunker Hill


Fine with me, you're all unarmed Lol

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Joshua Lonestar
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-08-07 19:30:24 UTC
Tian Jade wrote:
Stupid forums ate my post..



The rate of homicides is 5x higher in the US then in Germany and in many european countries police forces do not even carry firearms while on regular duty. There are reasons for this but I will give you another example you gun maniacs always fail to account.

Two people get into an argument while being drunk, the situation gets out of hand and A hits B into the face. Now B is also drunk, really mad at A .. and armed with a gun.

I know you will now argue that B would never be so stupid as to start a fight with A since A is armed but people are rarely that reasonable, especially not while being drunk.

Without a gun the worst that might happen might be a broken nose and a few bruises but with a gun in the hands of one of the parties involved, situation might escalate into something worse.


Statistics pretty much disprove your claims. You can sit around and make up fanciful what ifs all day long, and if thats what you need to do to justify your opinion so be it. But the truth is far, far different than you think it is.
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