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Could EVE ever be a game played with one toon per player?

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Doddy
Excidium.
#21 - 2012-08-07 11:37:37 UTC
It really depends what you are doing and your play style. If you are a hi sec ission runners there is no need for multi-accounts at all (except greed ofc). Even if you are a 0.0 pvper though its perfectly possible to run with 1 account as you are usually in fleets (no scout needed) and can get things like cynos off your corp mates. It does limit what you can do when though.

On the other hand with isk so easy to make and subs payable through isk via plex there is no real reason for rl financial trouble to drop people down to one acc once the have been in game a while.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-08-07 11:54:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
An eve survey listed that in the eve data base.
Do you have a link to it? If they finally got their thumbs out and tried to produce some kind of real stat, that would be sweet.


I am pretty sure that was about number of characters per account, not number of accounts per person.
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#23 - 2012-08-07 11:58:53 UTC
I don't not believe that 1.2 holds true to current eve population.

Most of those I know in wh space have 2+ accounts often more.
And even in Hi sec several of the people I know have 2+ accounts.

A realistic average would be 1.9 or 2 something along those lines.

Wormholes have the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me -
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
#24 - 2012-08-07 12:27:50 UTC
Most people with multiple accounts do so for industrial reasons. Or a "cyno alt" or a "hauler alt" etc.

The vast majority can't really play them "at the same time" outside of mining or industrial reasons. People playing their accounts at the same time in PvP (and being effective) is a rare breed and not the majority.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-08-07 12:35:09 UTC
Why does it matter if people play 1 character or 10?

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#26 - 2012-08-07 13:00:18 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
I am pretty sure that was about number of characters per account, not number of accounts per person.
That's what I would guess too, but it would be really nice to actually have something on accounts per player as well. Straight
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#27 - 2012-08-07 13:07:48 UTC
I only use one account, but two characters on it. I used that other character as a CEO placeholder at one time, and I'm considering doing PI with it to increase ISK income. I haven't done so yet, but it seems a good use of those 2 slots you get anyway. While skill training is paused on that second char, I bet PI projects will run passively just fine.
flakeys
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-08-07 13:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Having multiple accounts gives a player a tremendous edge, in particular if you diversify the character skilling and get involved in a number of "projects" at once. I can honestly say that I make about 10 times more ISK with 2 accounts than I would with 1 account on a daily basis. The applications of having a second account go far beyond scout alts.
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Not entirely correct. I made more with 2 accounts then a lot of people with 3 , 4 or even 7 accounts.Currently i have 4 accounts and make less then when i only had 2 accounts 2 years ago , it depends what the characters on the account are for and what you are doing in general as a way of income.

You can make as much isk with 1 account as with multiple depending on how you make your isk.Having a 2nd account just makes it a bit easier in certain areas.

Cyno alt , scout alt , trade alt to be able to compare 2 regions at the same time etc.But saying the more accounts you have the more isk you by definition make is totally wrong.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#29 - 2012-08-07 13:13:17 UTC
00wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwww wrote:
What's a toon?


You're a toon. Have no disillusion.

Short of a six month period total, I have always had one account since I started playing four years ago. Sure, I could get another account, but why? Eve is hard, and everytime I played with more than one, I felt as though I were taking sweets from a child. A fool I may be, but I still believe in the whole actions and consequences nature of this game.

John Hancock
Hammer Borne
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-08-07 13:40:36 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Having multiple accounts gives a player a tremendous edge, in particular if you diversify the character skilling and get involved in a number of "projects" at once. I can honestly say that I make about 10 times more ISK with 2 accounts than I would with 1 account on a daily basis. The applications of having a second account go far beyond scout alts.
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Not entirely correct. I made more with 2 accounts then a lot of people with 3 , 4 or even 7 accounts.Currently i have 4 accounts and make less then when i only had 2 accounts 2 years ago , it depends what the characters on the account are for and what you are doing in general as a way of income.

You can make as much isk with 1 account as with multiple depending on how you make your isk.Having a 2nd account just makes it a bit easier in certain areas.

Cyno alt , scout alt , trade alt to be able to compare 2 regions at the same time etc.But saying the more accounts you have the more isk you by definition make is totally wrong.


The post you quoted was entirely correct. You confused it and took it to an extreme. 2 accounts = more safety (scout), more isk (mining, hauling, missions, whatever). It is undeniable. Sure, there is a point at which more accounts may not equate more isk, but that wasnt the original point you quoted and took to an extreme.
Thronde
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-08-07 15:56:01 UTC
8 years, (mostly) 1 account/character.
Steel Wraith
#32 - 2012-08-07 16:24:23 UTC
Since returning to the game and creating this character/account in mid '09, I've played with a single character on a signle account and have enjoyed it very much. I'm of the opinion that we'd be playing a better game if everyone was limited to a single character but I understand that this is an unrealistic, likely minority dream.

The main benefit I've seen is that the game is more immersive with just one character as you can assume your character's identity more readily. A side benefit, or perhaps a con depending on your preference, is that you experience the various aspects of the game more slowly as you are skill-point limited. Take my opinion with a grain of salt as much of my time since character creation, although always subbed, has been spent away from game and not in active player corps.

Another benefit - Players must rely on other players instead of having swarms of single-minded hulks.

Some cons:

  • Specialization is more costly - must generalize so that you can still accomplish things by your lonesome.
  • Some things can't really be done by yourself, such as wormholes, so to experience parts of the game you must work with other players.
Boseo
Azure Horizon
#33 - 2012-08-07 16:47:21 UTC
I have also only ever played with one account, some of this is in part to not having the finance to pay for 2 accounts (before plex was traded in game) and then it was due to lack of gaming time because of pesky RL. But it was fun, and makes you look for different ways of doing things.

When I finally get time to come back, I may get a second account though.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2012-08-07 16:52:22 UTC
Steel Wraith wrote:
Another benefit - Players must rely on other players instead of having swarms of single-minded hulks.

Whoa whoa, you mean blobbing ...

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Cpt Arareb
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-08-07 16:56:12 UTC
only cpt arareb here,and, I have fun
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#36 - 2012-08-07 17:06:19 UTC
As long as they force me to have alts only to use this gay Cyno mechanic to prevent rifters-online from becomming jumpdrives online.... no.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#37 - 2012-08-07 17:13:37 UTC
Nearly 4 years in and still a one man show. Played a bit in low and null alone too :D

The Drake is a Lie
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-08-07 17:17:07 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Yeah getting stuck with the boring duties would suck badly if you only had one account. Ill second the scalability of multiple accounts in terms of isk generation over multiple avenues. Some suit themselves better to more accounts while some less. I know Id be bored out of my tree if I had to only run one account now.

Its not something enforceable and I though I think even from an RP perspective itd add a huge volume of depth and accountability to a person its just not feasible to do. Thered be no more scamming alts, pirating would be the only thing you could do and sec status would mean something again as well as a LOT of other things. What would be lost instantly are spies and corporate espionage as a whole with API requirements as well as cyno alts for capital toons. So tbh a vast majority of the nefarious actions that CCP encourages would be broken right off the bat if they could enforce it somehow.

Player turnover would be higher as youd be stuck in your character more and a bad decision, like real life, would follow you around forever. So someone just out for the lolz of something wouldnt stick around after the funny aspect has worn off and they cant do anything with the toon for whatever reason and being locked out of content due to actions in game.


Hardly, it just means that pirates, Awoxers, scammers and that would gain a reputation.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#39 - 2012-08-07 17:36:52 UTC
Depends your play style. 15 years or so of scout/ranger/assassin type (whatsa toooon?) chars, you guess how many accounts I need. Yeeees, pref hard mode ;)

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XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing
#40 - 2012-08-07 17:38:02 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Sure it could.

It would just be impossible to enforce.


There is a restriction in place that prevents a trial account and subscribed account from being logged on at the same time on the same pc. They could easily extend that to subscribed accounts. However, CCP is in the business to make money. So don't hold your breath waiting or hoping for such a restriction to come about. The more active accounts there are the more money CCP makes, aside from the ones who plex their accounts in game.

The only multiboxing advantage I believe should be restricted in some way is neutral RR.

Alt scouting I'm ok with, and if you can successfully pvp with two combat toonsthen more power to you. Micro managing multiple screens in a fight can get hairy.