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[PROPOSAL] Do something about 1 man corp decs
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Shang Ghjuvan
Shang Ghjuvan Corporation
#1 - 2012-08-05 16:06:03 UTC
Please do something about this, it mainly affects the incursion community but would have affects elsewhere (like with the war cool downs). Basically what people have been doing is wardeccing small corps who do incursions with alts which have just enough skils to dec someone or is an alt they are not planning on using for that week (for example Ready for Chaos is deccing my corp and its only member is the ceo which has been in that corp for 30 days). The point of these decs is not to go to war, its more to cause problems with communities which are vulnerable to "space aids". The incursion community didn't care about these corps until someone used the existing 1 man corp notifications to slip in a much larger corp. Please do something about this, my suggestion would be to require a min number of non trial characters before you can wardec (something small like 5)
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-08-05 16:13:02 UTC
One man corps already got hit pretty hard by the Inferno changes. It's really not that hard to shut down a one man corp. Also, you might want to post a solution rather than OMG DO SOMETHING.
Shang Ghjuvan
Shang Ghjuvan Corporation
#3 - 2012-08-05 17:52:30 UTC
Eternal Error wrote:
One man corps already got hit pretty hard by the Inferno changes. It's really not that hard to shut down a one man corp. Also, you might want to post a solution rather than OMG DO SOMETHING.


I did post a solution: my suggestion would be to require a min number of non trial characters before you can wardec (something small like 5)
And how would you go about shutting one of these down?
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-08-05 23:26:47 UTC
Shang Ghjuvan wrote:
Eternal Error wrote:
One man corps already got hit pretty hard by the Inferno changes. It's really not that hard to shut down a one man corp. Also, you might want to post a solution rather than OMG DO SOMETHING.


I did post a solution: my suggestion would be to require a min number of non trial characters before you can wardec (something small like 5)
And how would you go about shutting one of these down?

Your solution was contained in a single sentence of the post and was also terrible, so I didn't really count it as a solution.

As to how to shut them down, shoot the guy. Set a trap. If you're really lazy and feel like spending your time, camp him in station. The bottom line is, if you get all tied up in how much isk/hr you're losing by camping him or chasing after him, you're going to lose. It's YOUR CHOICE not to pursue him if your corporation's members feel that they should off making money instead, just don't be surprised when he picks you off one by one.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#5 - 2012-08-06 11:30:17 UTC
If you dont want to be war decked then move to the noob npc corp.

Or, join a bigger corp.

Or, deffend yourself.


Don't come crying to the forums with poorly thought out ideas that are simply a brain-fart response to "what change can I make that makes my specific situation safer"

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#6 - 2012-08-06 12:33:05 UTC
A single week old character who doesnt even log on can bring an entire incursion running corp/alliance to its knees?

Gosh, you incursionbears are worse at EVE than I thought
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#7 - 2012-08-06 16:45:34 UTC
Wow. AFK cloakers are killing nullsec, one-man wardecs are killing incursions, gankers are killing miners...pretty soon all that will be left is the alliances that can see to their own security, the w-space crowd that wonder what this "local" thing is, and highsec griefers.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2012-08-06 18:40:27 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Wow. AFK cloakers are killing nullsec, one-man wardecs are killing incursions, gankers are killing miners...pretty soon all that will be left is the alliances that can see to their own security, the w-space crowd that wonder what this "local" thing is, and highsec griefers.


I fail to see how this is a bad thing

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fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-06 20:39:44 UTC
grow some balls?
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Doomheim
#10 - 2012-08-07 10:07:23 UTC
OP is feeling threatened by a one-man corp. Wow.
fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-07 10:15:24 UTC
QUICK! everyone make one man corps and dec him!
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#12 - 2012-08-07 16:47:51 UTC
Make friends. Recruit allies. Higher a merc (it’s one guy… one merc is all you need).
Terminator56
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-08-07 17:30:34 UTC
Ever heard of the watchlist?
fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-07 21:56:08 UTC
Terminator56 wrote:
Ever heard of the watchlist?



apparently not...
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-08-07 22:11:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Plaude Pollard
Shang Ghjuvan wrote:
Do something about 1-man Corp decs

They already did. Don't you pay attention? Inferno increased the cost of War-deccing a corp to a way larger sum than 2 million ISK. Whether it's working or not is entirely up to you. If it's just one guy, just fight back.

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#16 - 2012-08-07 23:01:56 UTC
ahem.

Shang Ghjuvan wrote:
PLEASE FIX IT MOMMY, ONE PERSON IS ABLE TO BRING SEVERAL HUNDRED HIGHLY SKILLED COMBAT PILOTS TO THEIR KNEES WITH A SINGLE WARDEC!!!!! MAKE IT NOT SO!!!!!!!


One man should not be able to slow you down, and if you are ignoring wardecs because its a bunch of one man corps, then you and everyone in your corp is pretty brain damaged from shooting too many red crosses.

Its a community of people who are able to fly the best subcaps in eve at a high level of skill(SP that is). If you get wardecced, use the happy new ally system to bring more firepower from those Legendary Destroyers of Sansha to bear on anyone who does. The new wardec system favors you to such an extreme already that you don't need any more help other than maybe a life coach.

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fantazmythe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-08-09 01:03:02 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
If you get wardecced, use the happy new ally system to bring more firepower from those Legendary Destroyers of Sansha to bear on anyone who does. The new wardec system favors you to such an extreme already that you don't need any more help other than maybe a life coach.


aaah but that would then require them to spend isk, thus ruining their isk effeciency.

its just easier for them to demand a change to help them :P
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#18 - 2012-08-11 09:26:35 UTC
Why are you scared of a single 30 day old character?

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Lexar Mundi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-08-11 16:19:57 UTC
I run one of these 1 man war dec corps, sometimes I have my GF with me but if you really want to not get killed by one of these corps run in groups, use a neutral scout, put the person on a watch list, run locates on them even if they are offline to see where they are logged off so you know where they are when they log back in (AKA don't be an idiot)
Shang Ghjuvan
Shang Ghjuvan Corporation
#20 - 2012-08-13 22:13:16 UTC
By the way, the problem isn't the actual 1 man corp... that person doesn't undock. the problem is if I get into an incursion fleet and spread around space aids then it is easier for larger corps to sneak they're space aids in therefore no public incursion fleets will run with anyone at war no exceptions
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