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Dominix Tank Options. Shield vs Armor Tanking?
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Ehrghiez
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-05 23:27:58 UTC
So I've recently been hearing about how the Dominix or Navy Dominix are more efficient when using a shield tank set up? I am curious as to the legitimacy of what I am hearing. I've played around with the EFT numbers and moving modules around and the numbers suggest that a Shield tanked Domi puts out more DPS and tanks as much if not more than an Armor tank.

Can anyone verify this or if its worth it to cross train into Shield skills for this?

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2012-08-06 00:13:33 UTC
Confirmed. Shield tanking allows more lows for damage, especially since the introduction of Drone Damage Augmentors. With ASBs being introduced at the same time, high end gank fits went from edgy and somewhat dangerous to pretty mainstream so long as you don't mind spending the scratch to get it set up and burning cap boosters at an alarming rate.

By the by, the shield fits aren't meant to run cap stable. If you're looking for that, you're somewhat better of staying with armor.
Aaron Greil
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-06 00:49:15 UTC
depends on what you want to use it for. Shield is a good option for pvp, but doesn't have the saying power in pve.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-08-06 00:55:24 UTC
Aaron Greil wrote:
depends on what you want to use it for. Shield is a good option for pvp, but doesn't have the saying power in pve.


As per usual, you don't need "staying power" in PvE if you just kill fast enough. DDAs made this quite possible. 1100 DPS at 50km optimal is no slouch.

It's all easier done on a Navy Domi with its extra mid of course.
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-08-06 03:23:00 UTC
Armor still has the Nuet Fit able to dedicate its lows to just Drone Damage damage same with the RR Fit. Armor is also good if you need Duel Webs or Sentry Omni's or Sebo's and what have you in your mids.

For Lazy PvE Armor is the way to go. Alt Tabbers choice. Shield you're not gonna lose it to a mission if your there, have the basic SP, a good internet connection and 2 brain cells to rub together. Better for speed.
Katalci
Kismesis
#6 - 2012-08-07 07:18:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Katalci
1200 DPS and a 700 DPS tank, sup.
You can get a far bigger tank if you take off the prop mod and replace it with a shield boost amplifier or an invuln, but the Dominix is actually quite quick; you should be able to run down a badly-flown or poorly-skilled Drake.
[Dominix, XLASB]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L

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Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
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Bouncer II x5
Ogre II x2
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
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lmao owned for life:
[Dominix Navy Issue, XLASB]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
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Bouncer II x5
Ogre II x2
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#7 - 2012-08-07 08:09:11 UTC
Armor's better tank, shield's better damage. Not rocket science, no pun intended.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2012-08-07 09:35:35 UTC
Katalci, you just made me jump on the wretched ASB bandwagon.

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Aomar Pahineh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-08-07 13:59:54 UTC
Roime wrote:
Katalci, you just made me jump on the wretched ASB bandwagon.



*tinfoil hat on*

Hopefully someone will fight the goons with a full ASB fleet and maul them. It will lead to the nerf they need once CCP's batphone starts ringing..
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#10 - 2012-08-07 20:34:17 UTC
The thing tanks exactly like a CNR: 6 mid slots. That is all you need for PvE. I've been flying one the DNI and CNR for quite some time. Both great ships. I preffer the DNI for Guristas missions.
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#11 - 2012-08-07 22:48:07 UTC
Obsidiana wrote:
The thing tanks exactly like a CNR: 6 mid slots. That is all you need for PvE.

Difference is that the Dominix also requires those midslots for Omnilinks (assuming sentries). It also doesn't have the same range, requiring it to spend more time under fire (and providing an increased need for an AB).

Should still do just fine.
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#12 - 2012-08-08 03:31:12 UTC
I have to admit, for me, the ship is a specialized tool. I got sick of ECM missions and wished that I had more drones.

At range, the sentries hit with plenty of power w/o any help. I do switch them out for cruisers that get to close. Now, you can swap out a tank mod for a damage assist mod. Me, I use it to boost 425RGs. At range, I can often alpha frigates. BSs melt. It's great for Guristas. Anything else, I use another ship from my collection.
Ehrghiez
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-08-08 09:24:35 UTC
The feedback is all very much appreciated. I've been out of the game for so long that it seems as if every time I log in, there is a new module or game mechanic I hear or learn about. Again, the replies are very much appreciated. I'd rather submit to being a non-informed 'noob' than willfully ignorant. =)

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Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#14 - 2012-08-10 12:46:58 UTC
Kasutra wrote:
Obsidiana wrote:
The thing tanks exactly like a CNR: 6 mid slots. That is all you need for PvE.

Difference is that the Dominix also requires those midslots for Omnilinks (assuming sentries). It also doesn't have the same range, requiring it to spend more time under fire (and providing an increased need for an AB).

Should still do just fine.


One of the things that make the CNR such a good mission ship is its engagement range.

Gallente ships have, I think, THE shortest targetting range of any ships. Unless you fit range mods on your sentry Domi you may find yourself slowboating into targetting range quite often.
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#15 - 2012-08-10 16:06:03 UTC
Zaraz Zaraz wrote:
One of the things that make the CNR such a good mission ship is its engagement range.

Gallente ships have, I think, THE shortest targetting range of any ships. Unless you fit range mods on your sentry Domi you may find yourself slowboating into targetting range quite often.

It's the drone control range that gets annoying more often, in my experience.

Unless you count the Vindicator. ******* Vindicator.