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In regards to the ship balancing of fleet command ships/t3 boost ships, one thing that is not touched upon in the minutes but is by a previous poster is the mindlinks. I have had situations like the following:

Fleet is forming up, shield fleet with skirmish bonuses. I'm presently in a jump clone with the skirmish mindlink, so that works. Jump in the claymore or boosting loki...

...Change of plans. AHAC. Okay, so I jump clone to my armor mindlink clone and get in my damnation. Which is fine, unless the fleet type changes yet again, or if there is a fleet later I would like to be a booster for, but I can no longer provide mindlink boost unless I destroy the mindlink presently in my clone. And frankly, ganglinks without a mindlink are so inferior to those with a mindlink, and mindlinks are not cheap (except information mindlinks, and no one has to wonder why).

I might be reading too much into it, but it sounds like the t3 ships will retain their superior boosting bonuses over the t2 fleet command ships, which are presently only good for being ganglink platforms (though the damnation can make a good bait ship due to the incredibly amount of EHP it can have). When I want to have fun in a command ship, I fly a field command ship. All of them except the nighthawk are fun (nighthawk: a tankier version of the drake, and that's about it). Fleet command ships are about providing boost, and for the FCs. something to call targets from. While the FC's needs from a command ship are important, let's not forget that for that one FC, there are up to five wing commanders in that same fleet, flying fleet command ships or boosting t3s. The wing commanders need something to do besides sit there and provide boost.

I really lost interest in reading after that. Sorry but Unifex is right. This reseeding the moons is EXACTLY what is needed. Crying about having to rescan the moons for goo is pathetic. What happened to EVE being harsh? What happened to risk vs reward?

If you don't want to scan moons for goo then don't...hire someone to do it for you!

BTW...every thread I recall reading on this subject was vastly in favor of reseeding moon goo...the only ones complaining about it are the very few who don't want to have to scan it down. I have spend days on days in wormholes scanning crap down just to make a living...I don't feel sorry for you. CSM dropped the ball on this one.

So I read a bit further and Soundwave says it is too much to ask players to move around after building up a system?! WHAT?!

For gods sake...

Hooray for getting ring mining at some unspecified point in the future.

Hooray for getting updated POS's at some unspecified point in the future.

Hooray for getting exploration style gameplay for Incarna at some unspecified point in the future.

"The meeting is wrapping up, CCP Sreegs states that there’s no real way to launder ISK anymore, CCP runs the game and is able to see everything that goes on."

If I wanted to launder money, I'd make a lottery.

*cough*blink*cough*

LMAO. This casino / bank / safe vault is completely impenetrable and a theft could never occur. Ever.

Unless I was Somer Blink and wanted to launder some of my RMT money.

*cough*

Launder =/= Theft.

Did CCP mention when tattoos where going to be released?

He said "NDA NDA NDA NDA ... NDA NDA NDA"

Wormholes are an introduction to PVP. It's semi PVE/PVP ... and to a lesser extent, so is Factional Warfare. Whatever the original intent for Incursion as a PVP starter, it fails automatically when you include high sec systems. You've essentially presented a choice for the players : WH or Incursions or FW? (after the Escalation patch, this wasnt a hard question)

Edit: Imagine Incursion as a lowsec system - stuck in between the gray areas, languishing in limbo. You've got incursions appearing in null, low and highsec systems. Before the Escalation changes, highsec incursions were the most popular. Lowsec/null were mostly done by the Goons/friends ... why weren't the other alliances putting a concerted effort? Now it's mostly ignored. Even if you get it back up to previous level with this 1.2 patch, you're still saddled with the "too many plates to fill, too little food to go around" syndrome. You will almost end up with a mediocre solution, no matter how much polish you throw at it (to accomodate the game balance needs). Just an idea, have you thought of radically removing Incursion from lowsec/null and make them purely highsec ... then improving on its contents?

In the end, you've got two systems (WH and Incursion ... ok three if you include FW) running parallel for newbie PVP group content. While choice is great, I think the players would appreciate it more than you polish a single facet till it shines rather than than spreading your ideas to include more duplicates. The idea (I read somewhere) of turning Incursion into a high-end PVE content (the next stage after L4/L5 missions) is novel as it doesn't duplicate the other systems.

Another thing, Incursion DOES expose the players to PVP ideas :

* It teaches you the basics of buffer fits and balancing the resist vs buffer threshold to fit the specific scenario.
* Players also gain experience from logistic running fits, enabling them to be better logis (or at least doesn't suck as a pure newbie).
* You will experience how a small gang/fleet works from the VoIP and command structure.

As a result, any regular Incursion runners will fit right into any PVP fleet/gangs without much ado.
These really are the basic needs for a training ground. From that perspective, I think it has suceeded wildly - especially the logistics side.

If your idea of PVP involves players bashing other players, then that's a duplicate.
WH or FW are much more attractive for that sort of thing.

Don't nerf caps; instead, make anomaly running in capital ships a higher-commitment affair by altering anomalies. Capital ships in 0.0 anomalies should trigger some sort of escalation wave similar in concept to the capital escalations of C5/C6 space (i.e. you will be tackled by the rats until you clear the field and farming them requires a coordinated team effort where mistakes often lead to exploding capital ships; however, capital escalation rats in 0.0 will have good bounties and perhaps a chance of dropping faction modules?), but with the potential to escalate to much larger numbers if large numbers of capitals are warped/jumped into the anom or if supercapitals are present (aggravated escalation). Oh, and by the way, aggravated escalations should be able to tackle supercapitals (if NPC warp scrambling doesn't already do that).

Sound fun yet?