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Kept
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-05 14:59:17 UTC
Could anyone please suggest a pure dps nightmare fit that isn't too ridiculously tasty as gank-bait?

Not too worried about cap stability, flying in amarr space and looking for max dps.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-08-05 19:07:52 UTC
the nightmare has over9000 seconds align time and goes 120m/s, blitzing is not exactly its strength.

as for the fit, try something like this, maybe with a little less bling: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/47521-Nightmare-mission.html

I should buy an Ishtar.
Kept
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-05 19:21:26 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
the nightmare has over9000 seconds align time and goes 120m/s, blitzing is not exactly its strength.

as for the fit, try something like this, maybe with a little less bling: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/47521-Nightmare-mission.html


Ideally I would fit an AB, I have been playing with some fits but I know that people squeeze more dps out than the 950 I am currently achieving.
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#4 - 2012-08-05 19:33:44 UTC  |  Edited by: FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Try this, need some CPU/Power implants to make it work.


[Nightmare T2]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
100MN Afterburner II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Shield Booster II

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Gleam L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Gleam L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Gleam L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Gleam L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Energy Burst Aerator II
Large Ionic Field Projector I
[Empty Rig slot]


Vespa II x5
Hornet II x5

991DPS all 5s.

I would make it all fit but can't be arsed just buy some shiny to ease the cpu limit.

Can't get any more then this without better modules myself.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2012-08-05 23:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Chainsaw Plankton
drone link augmentors are a waste of a slot and cpu imo, if an npc is outside 60km your guns will kill it faster.

for missions where you actually have to kill a bunch stuff it is one of the better options for blitzing. some missions sure the tengu will get to the gate first but it can't use it as half the rats are still alive, where the nightmare will kill the last rat as it gets to the gate.

this is how I have my nightmare fit, I carry Multi through Standard, and can swap the ab for another tracking comp for missions where you don't need to move. the t2 rof rig is a nice dps increase, but the cccs are a bit lazy.

[Nightmare, Tachs pve]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Enhancer II

Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Small Tractor Beam II
Auto Targeting System II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5
Curator II x2

edit: ooh just noticed the targeting range rig on the above fit with the t2 rof rig (have the same combo on my vindicator) that would be nice as on pirate invasion usually a few ships get stuck on the structure at just over 100km

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BearJews
Order of Extrodinary Gentlemen
#6 - 2012-08-06 15:28:49 UTC
I personally converted my Vangaurd Blitz nighatmre to a mission fit. This is gloriously overtanked...i mean wayy overtanked, but it worked really really well for Em/Therm missions (The assault in my case)


[Nightmare, Mega pve]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large ancilliary shield booster
X-Large ancilliary shield booster
em-ward II
Em-Ward II
Thermic II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Webifier II


Mega Pulse Laser II - Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II-Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II-Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II-Scorch L



Anti-Thermic
Locus Coordinator
(The one for tracking, sorry i'm writing from work)

Anyway it does about 750 DPS out to 75km and 1.1k within about 30 KM. This is way way wayyyy over tanked. You can definitely get away with just one shield booster, and probably get rid of the shield boost amplifier and you'll still be more than ok. In my mission i used 6 cycles on just ONE booster for the whole thing. It one shot frigs and everything. really fun ship.
Lady Aja
#7 - 2012-08-07 03:44:52 UTC
Kept wrote:
Could anyone please suggest a pure dps nightmare fit that isn't too ridiculously tasty as gank-bait?

Not too worried about cap stability, flying in amarr space and looking for max dps.



not meanign to offend but if you are worried about being gank bait. go find a true high sec island in low sec, and run missiosn for them.

the island I used to live on for well over 2 years was a true island where i could run missions all day if i wanted.
only one mission ever was in low sec. anythign after that was maybe one in 300 missions sent me to low sec.

as for the nightmare.

some say HUGE shield booster and one of each mission hardner.

I prefer less is more.

more resist's and smaller booster.
the nightmare is 1100+dps
shoots out and hits at 86+km

so how you fit your nightmare is purely upto you. but if you fit ANY cap power relays i and several others will just face palm.
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
BearJews
Order of Extrodinary Gentlemen
#8 - 2012-08-07 14:09:54 UTC
Lady Aja wrote:
Kept wrote:
Could anyone please suggest a pure dps nightmare fit that isn't too ridiculously tasty as gank-bait?

Not too worried about cap stability, flying in amarr space and looking for max dps.



not meanign to offend but if you are worried about being gank bait. go find a true high sec island in low sec, and run missiosn for them.

the island I used to live on for well over 2 years was a true island where i could run missions all day if i wanted.
only one mission ever was in low sec. anythign after that was maybe one in 300 missions sent me to low sec.

as for the nightmare.

some say HUGE shield booster and one of each mission hardner.

I prefer less is more.

more resist's and smaller booster.
the nightmare is 1100+dps
shoots out and hits at 86+km

so how you fit your nightmare is purely upto you. but if you fit ANY cap power relays i and several others will just face palm.


I would say the amount of hardeners you use is very specific to the missions and you're right, you don't even need a huge booster like i put on mine. I did Massive attack against sanshas yesterday. I didn't use the shield booster once....It just kills stuff that quickly
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-08-07 14:38:51 UTC
i'm contemplating on a fit with a small deadspace booster to stay topped off and an emergency ASB for when the fecal matter reaches the turbine.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-08-07 22:10:54 UTC
[Nightmare, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Shield Boost Amplifier II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Domination 100MN Afterburner
Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Microwave L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Microwave L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Microwave L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Microwave L
Small Tractor Beam II
Ammatar Navy Heavy Nosferatu

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


Hobgoblin II x5
Berserker SW-900 x2



i had that setup for too long making me quiting it becuase it was damn 2 good and smooth that made me bored . Yes it is a bit expensive but , stasis really help kill that cruisers on orbit range , that nos for a strange reason forced the npc to try go off range (comming into better range for beams ) . I used IN micro for better tracking . You can also use a tracking computer for that stasis but i found it better making me kill things faster . But as a blitzer i did kill all the battleships on my way and leave behing whatever possible.

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Lady Aja
#11 - 2012-08-08 02:02:26 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
i'm contemplating on a fit with a small deadspace booster to stay topped off and an emergency ASB for when the fecal matter reaches the turbine.



this was my old setup..
It was cap stable for a reason. i had a ****** internet connection and refused to reply on luck.
I do not suggest you fly this in and around major mission hubs at all.

I always racially tanked. em/therm for bloods and sansha, kin and therm for gurista/eom/galante and 2 invulns and a kinetic for angels/minmatar.

Before anyone says its fail.. it made me soem 70b isk over two years.
I retired the old gal because I just became bored shitless with missions.

[Nightmare, Old setup]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Domination Tracking Enhancer

Pith A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gist A-Type EM Ward Field
Gist A-Type EM Ward Field
Gist A-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist A-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Cap Recharger II

Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Imperial Navy Tachyon Beam Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Small Tractor Beam II
Auto Targeting System II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

as far as drones go use the ones that you think are best.

also is nto cap stable without 2x 5% cap implants.
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Hongus Gwag
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-08-08 07:29:44 UTC
IMO a cap stable nightmare is doing it wrong. To get a cap stable nightmare you are sacrificing a significant portion of gank and tank. Yes it takes an additional 2 brain cells to negotiate tanking with an X-large shield booster, but if you can't handle that Hello Kitty is that way ---------->
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-08-08 08:21:29 UTC
Hongus Gwag wrote:
IMO a cap stable nightmare is doing it wrong. To get a cap stable nightmare you are sacrificing a significant portion of gank and tank. Yes it takes an additional 2 brain cells to negotiate tanking with an X-large shield booster, but if you can't handle that Hello Kitty is that way ---------->

how about you first read the post above you?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Lady Aja
#14 - 2012-08-08 11:29:21 UTC
Hongus Gwag wrote:
IMO a cap stable nightmare is doing it wrong. To get a cap stable nightmare you are sacrificing a significant portion of gank and tank. Yes it takes an additional 2 brain cells to negotiate tanking with an X-large shield booster, but if you can't handle that Hello Kitty is that way ---------->



1200 dps is pretty darn good for any mission ship and ONE heatsink is not going to make much of a difference.
also what part of unstable internet did you not understand?

the nightmare served its purpose. I no longer use it and it will always gather dust sittign in my old mission system, if for any reason i need to make isk because i no longer have null sec access its there.
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!