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Salvage: Is it worth it?
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Baltarrisk
Theran Industries
#1 - 2012-08-05 05:04:24 UTC
You guys helped a bunch when i was looking for a mission ship. right now ive got a drake setup and am running lvl'3s until i get get the hang of missions and some isk for a ship. Now I have been salvaging my mission in a comorant right now. My question: Is it eve worth it right now to salvage. i can fly a noctis i just dont have one. I feel salvaging only becomes a viable source of income if you have a noctis and are running level 4's

Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Ensign X
#2 - 2012-08-05 05:13:02 UTC
It depends on what your ISK/hr currently is, but I'd suggest waiting until you're up to Level 4's before you make that decision. It's been ages since I salvaged a L3 mission, but I don't recall it being all that profitable. Maybe just a Salvager in your Drake's spare highslot to salvage any battleship rats you run into.
Baltarrisk
Theran Industries
#3 - 2012-08-05 05:18:21 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
It depends on what your ISK/hr currently is, but I'd suggest waiting until you're up to Level 4's before you make that decision. It's been ages since I salvaged a L3 mission, but I don't recall it being all that profitable. Maybe just a Salvager in your Drake's spare highslot to salvage any battleship rats you run into.


I have not run into 1 battleship rat and usually the mission is 1 jump away so i gotta clear the mission jump back then jump back to the mission salvage and then get a new mission.
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#4 - 2012-08-05 06:17:48 UTC
Baltarrisk wrote:
You guys helped a bunch when i was looking for a mission ship. right now ive got a drake setup and am running lvl'3s until i get get the hang of missions and some isk for a ship. Now I have been salvaging my mission in a comorant right now. My question: Is it eve worth it right now to salvage. i can fly a noctis i just dont have one. I feel salvaging only becomes a viable source of income if you have a noctis and are running level 4's

Any help would be great.

Thanks,


I do lvl3 and salvage with my noctis. for a few reasons.

1)your not running around collecting loot from all the wrecks in your missioning ship

2)your tractor beams pull the wrecks in you salvage the parts and then the loot is in a cargo container.

3)its extra isk, it depends on the mission too.

4) You can bookmark wrecks, do the whole mission turn it in and warp to mission spot.

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Baltarrisk
Theran Industries
#5 - 2012-08-05 06:45:48 UTC
I guess i need a noctis. doing it in a comorant is nice and all but i loved my 67.2km range for tractor beams lol.
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#6 - 2012-08-05 07:02:32 UTC
Baltarrisk wrote:
I guess i need a noctis. doing it in a comorant is nice and all but i loved my 67.2km range for tractor beams lol.


yeah it actually save you time if you think about it. I'm sure the actual salvage is not as good, but every isk counts. and its a break between missions.

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Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
#7 - 2012-08-05 07:21:48 UTC
Sometimes I salvage L3s, depends how many wrecks there are.

L4 salvage can be worth 10mil or so, more if there are things like armour plates.
Sellendis
The Ares project
#8 - 2012-08-05 07:30:48 UTC
Salvage depends on what you kill, on guristas you can simply forget about salvage. Loot is crappy, salvage even worse. Nowadays after loot nerf, its even worse, salvage prices are all time low and its almost a waste of time.

And if you wanna salvage your missions, optimize your time, wrecks stay in space for 2h, so just make missions and bookmark each first wreck in a room you do with a time stamp, like 0927, next room first wreck 0942, and so on. Finish mission, take next one and repeat, when you get close to 2 hours on your first wreck, finish mission and go salvage all bookmarks in one go.
And yes, get a Noctis if you wanna do it right.
Rakael Kateloda
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-05 09:12:25 UTC
Ensign X wrote:
Maybe just a Salvager in your Drake's spare highslot to salvage any battleship rats you run into.


That's what I do right now as well for lvl 3, salvage from the big guys in my Drake and ignore the mob until I'm ready for lvl 4.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#10 - 2012-08-05 11:37:29 UTC
I seem to recall someone doing some calculation and coming to the conclusion that blitzing missions is actually the best ISK/hr.
Don´t forget that you have to turn all your salvage into cash too, that is taking time as well....

Also, a Noctis is not that cheap either and pretty much mandatory for salvaging L4s.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#11 - 2012-08-05 20:14:46 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
I seem to recall someone doing some calculation and coming to the conclusion that blitzing missions is actually the best ISK/hr.


It depends. If clearing missions takes you tons of time, looting/salvaging is more profitable. The whole calculation is highly dependent on your LP conversion rate though.

Nerath Naaris wrote:
Don´t forget that you have to turn all your salvage into cash too, that is taking time as well....


It can be done from space. Usually during missions. But if you're spending extra time on it, yes, calculate that.

Nerath Naaris wrote:
Also, a Noctis is not that cheap either and pretty much mandatory for salvaging L4s.


That's actually the least of your concerns. Looting/salvaging 10 good L4s should pay for the hull if not hull and fitting.
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#12 - 2012-08-05 21:49:00 UTC
Sellendis wrote:
Salvage depends on what you kill, on guristas you can simply forget about salvage. Loot is crappy, salvage even worse. Nowadays after loot nerf, its even worse, salvage prices are all time low and its almost a waste of time.

And if you wanna salvage your missions, optimize your time, wrecks stay in space for 2h, so just make missions and bookmark each first wreck in a room you do with a time stamp, like 0927, next room first wreck 0942, and so on. Finish mission, take next one and repeat, when you get close to 2 hours on your first wreck, finish mission and go salvage all bookmarks in one go.
And yes, get a Noctis if you wanna do it right.


Not a bad idea. I do that some times. How much is decent fit noctis? I bought mine a while ago, cant really remember.

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-08-05 22:12:12 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
How much is decent fit noctis? I bought mine a while ago, cant really remember.

90-100mil will get you a full t2 fit

I should buy an Ishtar.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-08-05 22:15:41 UTC
Sometimes i used to salvage just for a change of pace.
Aldstealth Senx
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-08-06 02:30:08 UTC
I always Salvage, since L1s. In a L1 I could get 2kk in a good mission's loot. L2 brought me up to 6kk in a single mission. L3 up to 15kk, L4 20 to 60kk per good mission.

People generally never do it because they are lazy. It's always worth it and with Ore Industrial L5 you can tractor the loot 80km away, coming to you at 2000m/s mwd's speed.

I salvaged 130 wrecks in 15 minutes. I don't even have Salvaging L5...Big smile
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#16 - 2012-08-06 03:22:29 UTC
Aldstealth Senx wrote:
I always Salvage, since L1s. In a L1 I could get 2kk in a good mission's loot. L2 brought me up to 6kk in a single mission. L3 up to 15kk, L4 20 to 60kk per good mission.


There is no ******* way you're hitting those numbers with any consistency. 60mil to salvage a "good" L4 (in what, 15 minutes?) would make salvaging more profitable than pre-nerf incursions.
Kaomi Zorbaz
Claint Industries
#17 - 2012-08-06 17:56:28 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
Sellendis wrote:
Salvage depends on what you kill, on guristas you can simply forget about salvage. Loot is crappy, salvage even worse. Nowadays after loot nerf, its even worse, salvage prices are all time low and its almost a waste of time.

And if you wanna salvage your missions, optimize your time, wrecks stay in space for 2h, so just make missions and bookmark each first wreck in a room you do with a time stamp, like 0927, next room first wreck 0942, and so on. Finish mission, take next one and repeat, when you get close to 2 hours on your first wreck, finish mission and go salvage all bookmarks in one go.
And yes, get a Noctis if you wanna do it right.


Not a bad idea. I do that some times. How much is decent fit noctis? I bought mine a while ago, cant really remember.

Just bought one last week to do lvl 4 salvaging. The ship ran 74 million in Jita, plus T1 tractor beams. Think the total came out to around 90ish million.
Idris Helion
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-06 18:04:37 UTC
Aldstealth Senx wrote:
I always Salvage, since L1s. In a L1 I could get 2kk in a good mission's loot. L2 brought me up to 6kk in a single mission. L3 up to 15kk, L4 20 to 60kk per good mission.

People generally never do it because they are lazy. It's always worth it and with Ore Industrial L5 you can tractor the loot 80km away, coming to you at 2000m/s mwd's speed.

I salvaged 130 wrecks in 15 minutes. I don't even have Salvaging L5...Big smile



Salvaging L1 missions is a complete waste of time, if you factor in the amount of time you spend doing it. L1 missioners tend to be either noobs or people grinding for sec status. Noobs aren't going to have their skills up high enough to make salvaging profitable, and others aren't going to want to waste the time since they're not doing it for the ISK anyhow.

L2's are pretty worthless as well -- salvaging is an "opportunity cost" equation, and in L1/L2 missions, you can make more ISK doing something else with your time (like running more missions). Yes, if you have high skills and carefully bookmark your wrecks to salvage later (and assuming they aren't ninja'd by someone else), you can eke out a profit. But until you get to L4 missions, it's really just not worth the time.
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#19 - 2012-08-07 16:59:13 UTC
Yeah I have to agree salvaging l1s is pointless. I was reading somewhere its kind of pointless to t2 a noctis.

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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-08-07 17:01:18 UTC
Kult Altol wrote:
Yeah I have to agree salvaging l1s is pointless. I was reading somewhere its kind of pointless to t2 a noctis.


Yup.

Salvaging doesn't really make sense until L4 missions (some choice L3's as well). Even then, most missions are not worth salvaging.

As for T2 on a Noctis, there is SOME benefit, but it is minimal and will probably never be useful - i.e. increased tractor range.
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