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Shield Tanked Cane PVE
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Hiyora Akachi
Izia Freight Limited
#1 - 2012-08-05 01:58:38 UTC
Anyone have a shield tanked cane fit for PVE that they wouldn't mind sharing?


Would be greatly appreciated.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-08-05 11:06:19 UTC
depends on what kind of pve. here is one i use to farm lvl3's for standings:


[Hurricane, titanium]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

I should buy an Ishtar.
Hiyora Akachi
Izia Freight Limited
#3 - 2012-08-05 16:53:35 UTC
Should I put anything in those two high slots? Like rapid lights or a tractor beam?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-08-05 20:20:06 UTC
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
Should I put anything in those two high slots? Like rapid lights or a tractor beam?


There's no grid to do anything with them really.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-06 00:23:42 UTC
even if you had the grid, light missiles deal insignificant damage, especially without bonuses and damage mods. the only other modules that might be useful are tractor beam/salvager, drone link augmentor or auto targeter.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Hiyora Akachi
Izia Freight Limited
#6 - 2012-08-06 02:17:27 UTC
I see your point, thanks for the fit man.
Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-08-07 02:35:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Gabrielle Lamb
Not sure why you want a shield tank when you can use this? http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/25797-Hurricane-Dark-Fusion-Terror-L3-Mission-Runner.html

And there's really no such thing as "insignificant damage" below 600 DPS. If you get a mob healing 350 per sec and you're only dealing 450. +20-30 DPS is a massive improvement.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-08-07 15:08:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
Gabrielle Lamb wrote:
Not sure why you want a shield tank when you can use this? http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/25797-Hurricane-Dark-Fusion-Terror-L3-Mission-Runner.html

And there's really no such thing as "insignificant damage" below 600 DPS. If you get a mob healing 350 per sec and you're only dealing 450. +20-30 DPS is a massive improvement.

except you don't get "mobs" "healing" 350/sec in lvl3 missions.

edit: also, my fit still has more dps, more range and better tracking AND a sufficient tank for most lvl3s.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2012-08-07 15:24:21 UTC
Gabrielle Lamb wrote:
Not sure why you want a shield tank when you can use this? http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/25797-Hurricane-Dark-Fusion-Terror-L3-Mission-Runner.html


Because shield tanking is -- under most circumstances -- just plain better for missions. On a ship like a Hurricane if you can shield tank, you should shield tank it.

And frankly that fit isn't anything special. There's a rather enormous difference between 650s and 720s in terms of both range and damage -- the two most important things you can have while running missions provided your tank isn't breaking.

(Please note that this is an oversimplification and it somewhat breaks down when talking about EM/Therm rats. But in broad terms it does hold.)

Gabrielle Lamb wrote:
And there's really no such thing as "insignificant damage" below 600 DPS. If you get a mob healing 350 per sec and you're only dealing 450. +20-30 DPS is a massive improvement.


This is nonsense. There are very few rats that rep 350/sec and none of them are in L3s. In fact, I've never seen anything in an L4 rep that fast. That's high end deadspace overseer territory.

But it's not entirely wrong; higher damage does kill faster in a non-linear way. But it's also an argument further in favor of 720s. Alpha helps break tanks more than steady damage.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-08-07 17:12:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Caleidascope
Basically if you do shield tank, you have to do a sniper fit, which means arti. I prefer 650mm arti because it has larger magazine. So fit arti and 10 mn ab, kite the smaller rats, orbit rats that equal size to you, stay somewhere around 35-42 km from them and they will never take your shield down. Since you have 3 mid slots, you can fit 2 shield extenders and ab, or shield extender+resist+ab, or you can try some kind of shield booster fit. With shield booster fit you can try fitting small shield booster and be cap stable, small shield booster+cap mod+ab would be your medium slots then.

Edit
Oops! Daddy sugar cane has 4 mid slots. My old fits had ab+2 shield extenders+resist or tracking comp.
I have played with 3 shield extenders and found out that third shield extender was not really effective, that is why I stay with 2 shield extenders.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Lenier Chenal
Offensive Upholder
#11 - 2012-08-08 16:58:31 UTC
Gabrielle Lamb wrote:
Not sure why you want a shield tank when you can use this? http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/25797-Hurricane-Dark-Fusion-Terror-L3-Mission-Runner.html

And there's really no such thing as "insignificant damage" below 600 DPS. If you get a mob healing 350 per sec and you're only dealing 450. +20-30 DPS is a massive improvement.


"mobs"

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