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Crazy KSK
Tsunami Cartel
#41 - 2012-08-05 15:05:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Crazy KSK
I very much like that idea too

Quote CCP Fozzie: ... The days of balance and forget are over.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#42 - 2012-08-05 16:38:35 UTC
Radius Prime wrote:
Something that can give an entire alliance a goal to work towards. Manufacturing time should be off the scale as well. We are not playing wow here. No need for instant gratification; could take 2 years and trillions to build one. Such a feat of teamwork would really distinguish eve from any other MMO in history. Imagine the publicity for the game as well. Who wouldn't give this Titan of a game a shot just to see what it is all about. People need dreams, if ccp provides them they will be around forever. Nothing wrong with a gaming corp or it's player base being ambitious.

So they're rare, like Titans are, right?

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Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#43 - 2012-08-05 18:13:36 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Radius Prime wrote:
Something that can give an entire alliance a goal to work towards. Manufacturing time should be off the scale as well. We are not playing wow here. No need for instant gratification; could take 2 years and trillions to build one. Such a feat of teamwork would really distinguish eve from any other MMO in history. Imagine the publicity for the game as well. Who wouldn't give this Titan of a game a shot just to see what it is all about. People need dreams, if ccp provides them they will be around forever. Nothing wrong with a gaming corp or it's player base being ambitious.

So they're rare, like Titans are, right?


Titans are the new noobship. Doesn't everyone in goons own one already? My vision is a ship so powerful it would have to be destroyed asap. Would be nice to finally have real war in eve.

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#44 - 2012-08-05 18:19:29 UTC
Radius Prime wrote:
Don't want it to be just a mobile POS.. Seen enough posses already to be bored with them. And what's cool about a space station that is completely outscaled by a titan. This should be an installation on a totally different scale. Able to manufacture and allow to dock supercapitals, provide anything a capsuleer could want. Something that can give an entire alliance a goal to work towards. Manufacturing time should be off the scale as well. We are not playing wow here. No need for instant gratification; could take 2 years and trillions to build one. Such a feat of teamwork would really distinguish eve from any other MMO in history. Imagine the publicity for the game as well. Who wouldn't give this Titan of a game a shot just to see what it is all about. People need dreams, if ccp provides them they will be around forever. Nothing wrong with a gaming corp or it's player base being ambitious.


Yes, imagine the publicity. A ship that takes two years to build, that will really pack them in.
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#45 - 2012-08-05 19:11:19 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Radius Prime wrote:
Don't want it to be just a mobile POS.. Seen enough posses already to be bored with them. And what's cool about a space station that is completely outscaled by a titan. This should be an installation on a totally different scale. Able to manufacture and allow to dock supercapitals, provide anything a capsuleer could want. Something that can give an entire alliance a goal to work towards. Manufacturing time should be off the scale as well. We are not playing wow here. No need for instant gratification; could take 2 years and trillions to build one. Such a feat of teamwork would really distinguish eve from any other MMO in history. Imagine the publicity for the game as well. Who wouldn't give this Titan of a game a shot just to see what it is all about. People need dreams, if ccp provides them they will be around forever. Nothing wrong with a gaming corp or it's player base being ambitious.


Yes, imagine the publicity. A ship that takes two years to build, that will really pack them in.


Thx for the sarcasm. In my opinion it would attract the kind of player that is goal oriented and lasts in eve. Major projects fill people with pride and dedication even if they have no direct hand in the project themselves. People need a feeling of belonging. They search to be part of something bigger. Why do we build things like Burj Dubai. Why were the empire state building or the Eiffel tower built? All are mad for their time. All fill an entire nation with pride and identity. Eve is no different. An alliance would build one just for the propaganda value of building one even without the strategic benefit.

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Wu Phat
InsufficientFunds LLC.
#46 - 2012-08-05 20:16:01 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
I'd think more along the lines of a strategic capital ship... a T3 capship built out of modules, like a strategic cruiser. This way it could be anything, from mobile warfare HQ to a factory or science ship.


I support this idea. W- spcae Capitals for W-space needs.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#47 - 2012-08-06 02:47:41 UTC
Wu Phat wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
I'd think more along the lines of a strategic capital ship... a T3 capship built out of modules, like a strategic cruiser. This way it could be anything, from mobile warfare HQ to a factory or science ship.


I support this idea. W- spcae Capitals for W-space needs.

A T3 Titan, with
Covert Configuration
Interdiction Nullifier
Small Target Tracker

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Susiqueta Muir
NEXUS Holdings Inc.
#48 - 2012-08-10 14:02:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Susiqueta Muir
The thing is, with WiS still under development and the whole "Micro-sites" concept where players can dock up and walk about...

How do you create a small environment (so you don't need to make the system stations into explorable areas) for players to interract in where you can limit access, set it up for a range of functions and in effect create small instanced areas which would probably be better on the cpu's/hamsters...

someone mentioned T3 modularisation earlier. Have a basic station (with corresponding docking area and interior) plus have it expandable by bolting on additional "rooms" in the form of modules. the exterior and interior will change to correspond with the changes made, you can limit the number of modules to 1 of each type (so limit also the size and generic layout of the interior) i.e. one medical bay, one research lab, one factory etc. (though different qualities give better bonuses etc)...

...and players have a WiS environment they can open up to the public, limit to corp members or keep as their own private haven.

Want to destroy it? How about using the hacking/analyzing tools we have for ships (and expand upon them) to get your ship inside the docking bay. walk through to the Warp engine area then take control of it over time and offline the warp/jump capabilities or go to the science lab and take out the cloak, the weapons platform control, the shield generators etc....

I can also imagine all the corp chatting away in the lounge, the lights flashing red and all the avatars legging it to the docking bay if the station came under attack... :)

Plus, I don't want to leave the captains quarters in Jita 4-4 anyway, who would want to walk about breathing in the contaminated atmosphere from all the non-pod pilots, mudsiders and other scum? :)

SM.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#49 - 2012-08-10 16:40:10 UTC
Susiqueta Muir wrote:
The thing is, with WiS still under development and the whole "Micro-sites" concept where players can dock up and walk about...

How do you create a small environment (so you don't need to make the system stations into explorable areas) for players to interract in where you can limit access, set it up for a range of functions and in effect create small instanced areas which would probably be better on the cpu's/hamsters...

someone mentioned T3 modularisation earlier. Have a basic station (with corresponding docking area and interior) plus have it expandable by bolting on additional "rooms" in the form of modules. the exterior and interior will change to correspond with the changes made, you can limit the number of modules to 1 of each type (so limit also the size and generic layout of the interior) i.e. one medical bay, one research lab, one factory etc. (though different qualities give better bonuses etc)...

...and players have a WiS environment they can open up to the public, limit to corp members or keep as their own private haven.

Want to destroy it? How about using the hacking/analyzing tools we have for ships (and expand upon them) to get your ship inside the docking bay. walk through to the Warp engine area then take control of it over time and offline the warp/jump capabilities or go to the science lab and take out the cloak, the weapons platform control, the shield generators etc....

I can also imagine all the corp chatting away in the lounge, the lights flashing red and all the avatars legging it to the docking bay if the station came under attack... :)

Plus, I don't want to leave the captains quarters in Jita 4-4 anyway, who would want to walk about breathing in the contaminated atmosphere from all the non-pod pilots, mudsiders and other scum? :)

SM.


i like this idea!

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Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-08-11 00:05:57 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
I'd think more along the lines of a strategic capital ship... a T3 capship built out of modules, like a strategic cruiser. This way it could be anything, from mobile warfare HQ to a factory or science ship.


Minecraft in Space!

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octahexx Charante
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-08-11 00:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: octahexx Charante
if stations become destructable a mothership could probably be interesting.
if its t3 dying in one should really really cost you some sp but it needs risk/reward ratio...we dont need just "another" cap ship...eve is full of those...it should be something new and out of the box for it to be any point to it.

edit: heres an idea why not have it be able to anchor/create a wormhole? but have timer ....imagine having a wh from your main base and be able to tunnel your swarm straight into the heart of enemy land in one jump...until the mass limit is met and it collapse?
River St Clair
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-08-11 02:30:02 UTC
can i run L4s with them?

Whats the isk/hour in a sanctum?

will it dock in a station?

can i fit an interdiction nullifier?

I'll be sure to check back never, when this is implemented in game

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#53 - 2012-08-11 03:40:28 UTC
octahexx Charante wrote:
edit: heres an idea why not have it be able to anchor/create a wormhole? but have timer ....imagine having a wh from your main base and be able to tunnel your swarm straight into the heart of enemy land in one jump...until the mass limit is met and it collapse?

I love this force projection idea.

How much range will it have? What are the costs of opening this wormhole?

I assume it can be used to drop people into cynojammed systems (like the covert jump bridge). Does it not even need something like a cyno on the opposite side? Amazing.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#54 - 2012-08-11 13:44:24 UTC
octahexx Charante wrote:

edit: heres an idea why not have it be able to anchor/create a wormhole? but have timer ....imagine having a wh from your main base and be able to tunnel your swarm straight into the heart of enemy land in one jump...until the mass limit is met and it collapse?


i am under the opinion that this is how a titans jump bridge should work...

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#55 - 2012-08-11 15:15:06 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
octahexx Charante wrote:

edit: heres an idea why not have it be able to anchor/create a wormhole? but have timer ....imagine having a wh from your main base and be able to tunnel your swarm straight into the heart of enemy land in one jump...until the mass limit is met and it collapse?

i am under the opinion that this is how a titans jump bridge should work...

Ah so instead of one titan, you'd have to use a few titans. Interesting.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#56 - 2012-08-11 16:45:37 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
octahexx Charante wrote:

edit: heres an idea why not have it be able to anchor/create a wormhole? but have timer ....imagine having a wh from your main base and be able to tunnel your swarm straight into the heart of enemy land in one jump...until the mass limit is met and it collapse?

i am under the opinion that this is how a titans jump bridge should work...

Ah so instead of one titan, you'd have to use a few titans. Interesting.

Yes and the wh goes both ways too...

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#57 - 2012-08-11 17:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
MeBiatch wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
octahexx Charante wrote:

edit: heres an idea why not have it be able to anchor/create a wormhole? but have timer ....imagine having a wh from your main base and be able to tunnel your swarm straight into the heart of enemy land in one jump...until the mass limit is met and it collapse?

i am under the opinion that this is how a titans jump bridge should work...

Ah so instead of one titan, you'd have to use a few titans. Interesting.

Yes and the wh goes both ways too...

Well if you jump though enough people that it closes, what's the problem.

Besides,, suppose the enemy cross jumps. In comes half a fleet of subcaps into your blob of titans. Whatever will the titans do....

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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-08-11 18:00:21 UTC
I can envision a mobile platform similar to the Death Star from Star Wars.

This station has a huge gun powerful enough to destroy a planet. So if Dust players worry about bombardment, wait until the whole battleground is destroyed. Twisted But to keep this reasonable, either this gun requires such a huge amount of fuel to ignite it or materials so rare that if actually found, then would not go to waste on something frivolous. A lesser amount of fuel or a different material to destroy titans.

And would have batteries to target many of the large ships in the game. But would be quite difficult, if not impossible, to target cruisers and frigates a.k.a. X-Wing fighters. These same ships could potentially reach this station's weak points to immobize or destroy it outright. Not a one shot wonder, but many, many weak points.

This station crawls through a solar system and should take days, if not weeks, to travel across many of them.

Somehow have numerous players controlling this station simultaneously, being in charge of one of the many crucial aspects to keep this station going. So no one player "stealing" this from a corp and running away with it.

Quite skill intensive to operate, and a very long time to build - give the old, old, old players something to work towards.

Just a thought after reading this thread.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#59 - 2012-08-11 18:11:21 UTC
If we want it to be a rare sight, make it require 4-8x the time and materials that Outposts require

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#60 - 2012-08-11 18:13:33 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Yes and the wh goes both ways too...

Well if you jump though enough people that it closes, what's the problem.

Besides,, suppose the enemy cross jumps. In comes half a fleet of subcaps into your blob of titans. Whatever will the titans do....


it could lead to some interesting things like you could pre crash the wh to stop the fleet from comming...

or you could sneak a cyno ship threw and hot drop the titans...

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