EVE General Discussion

I see it all the time, players claiming superiority because of the game they play, but in EVE the level delusions of grandeur are far beyond anything I've seen.

To me this seems like a fallacy of logic.

For one thing, it doesn't take any special skill to play EVE. You don't need twitch skills like you would in a first person shooter game and you don't need macro-ability or micro-ability or actions per minute like you would in an RTS game. All that is required is knowledge, know what weapons to use, know what you can kill and can't kill, and know what can kill you. Copy a popular fit and listen to your FC and you are as effective as you can be. Your personal skills as a gamer are totally irrelevant for the most part. Know what direction to fly and know game mechanics to succeed. As far as I can tell, there is nothing that really takes skill in EVE, all that is needed is knowledge on what to do, which any simpleton can acquire over time. You could even argue that WoW takes more skill than EVE. So why is it that so many EVE players think they are so special?

Personally I see EVE as a knowledge-based game, not a skill-based game. If anything, this is the kind of game people would be comfortable with after getting sick of losing in skill-based games. I think EVE is a great game, but there no reason to pretend like because we play it, we are somehow smarter or more hardcore than other gamers. There are skill based games that are more hardcore than EVE and require more thought.

Set me right, EVE forum dwellers, what makes you superior?

We don't. We think youre inferior.

I see atleast 2 things that are HIGHLY superior about you... that CAN'T be healthy!

Seriously though: EVE is a game based on personal goals, competition and capitalism that requires serious time investment... more so then most other MMOs do... it's normal for SOME people to feel kind of superior when they start to excell in one area of it or another... one could argue that those people have an unhealthy atitude towards EVE, seeing it more as a second job then a game that is supposed to be fun... but hey, whose to judge, really.

Hiya

Quite simply because EvE Online is not a large game. Hence when big alliances make small decisions they affect most of the EvE universe

= Ego - Superior Attitude

WOW - Millions if players with Thousands of realms across three main server groups i.e US/EU/China and Japan - Millions of guilds. No one pays attention to anyone outside of there guild because the actions of one guild do not affect the realm the said guild is on.

Im afraid it is as simple as that.

In short

Small player base - Sandbox - Small decision by big alliance - thousands of players affected = Ego = Superior Attitude

Big game - non sandbox - no one cares - move on

Hope this helps

You're focusing too much on the "skill" aspect of gaming.

Almost all "skills" in gaming can be acquired over time through repetition. Play Counter Strike for 5 hours a day, every day for a few years, and your aim will be up there with the best (barring any medical issues that may hold you back).

The reason Eve players are better than the rest of the plebeians out there is because Eve requires patience. This is why Eve has a more mature playerbase than most games, kids don't have the patience for it (especially not these days), it's all about instant gratification for most of them. In Eve, you have to research into almost every aspect of what you're doing, it requires the aforementioned patience, the ability to string a semi-coherent sentence together, and the mental capacity not to believe everything you're told.

This is beyond most gamers today, and that is why Eve players are simply just better than them.

Mostly because because of death penalty - which is in itself awesome.

Also it takes a LOT of time and research to master all aspects of EVE.

You mentioned PVP, which is but a fraction of the game itself.
There is also exploration, research production, trading, PVE with incursions / missions that actually take some time to think, etc.

So far I have played WOW, AOC, SWTOR, Aion, WAR - which are generaly the same game in different setup. If you master one, you have mastered all. It only takes gear and some twitch skills to be good at them.
You can PVE / PVP / craft easily with minimal effort or indeed knowledge of the subject.

Personally I'm a PVP player that dabbles in missions recently because of kid in the house ( few hrs of peace are a distant memory ). But I did explore the idea of setting up some POS-es for research and making a production cycle. But when you do the math and think about it, it takes a LOT of effort, time and in the end its risky because someone will either kill your POS ransom you or ... the list goes on.

Not to mention scamming is a part of the game.
Someone stole from your corp, dismantled your whole 0.0 Sov. holding alliance ? Tough cookie bro, excuse me while I pop a beer open and laugh at your misery. Oh yeah, theres a dread fleet with support amassing to "assist" you with your stations and other commodities.

And as far as skill goes - who clicks 10 clicks per second more - its irrelevant in EVE true. Its not a short attention span type of a game. Its not like SC2 or BF3, its more like a game of chess, but with guns and other stuff.

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The fact that you have to hide on an alt proves you are inferior.

The fact that you have to behind an online avatar proves you are mr poopy pants.

Anyone who thinks they are 'superior' because they play Eve, should quit. Now

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