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low sec sentrys and pvp arenas ( csm minutes quotes )
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Big Bossu
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#101 - 2012-08-04 09:15:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Big Bossu
Ensign X wrote:
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
I like RvB, but it has mock fighting, not real fighting.


Curious. Last time I saw an RVB battle their ships seemed to blow up just like every other ship. Roll


"no ecm"

"t1 cruisers only!"

"don't shoot the FC"

"4 guys in gang chat x up and change from frigate to cruiser"

I have my alt in RVB, you can get a fight really fast and you can get on a lot of killmails, but the fights there lack any sort of tension that comes with a real fight in low/0.0.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#102 - 2012-08-04 12:36:26 UTC
Big Bossu wrote:


"no ecm"

"t1 cruisers only!"

"don't shoot the FC"

"4 guys in gang chat x up and change from frigate to cruiser"


Those rules only apply to RvB, when they go purple on your arse then all RvB rules are suspended and ECM, podding, the FC being primary and bucket fleets are the order of the day.

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Spectre80
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-08-04 12:43:46 UTC
ohnoes. what are smartbomb battleship pro pilots gonna do now? you know these kinda guys.

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Ensign X
#104 - 2012-08-04 15:28:02 UTC
Big Bossu wrote:
Ensign X wrote:
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
I like RvB, but it has mock fighting, not real fighting.


Curious. Last time I saw an RVB battle their ships seemed to blow up just like every other ship. Roll


"no ecm"

"t1 cruisers only!"

"don't shoot the FC"

"4 guys in gang chat x up and change from frigate to cruiser"

I have my alt in RVB, you can get a fight really fast and you can get on a lot of killmails, but the fights there lack any sort of tension that comes with a real fight in low/0.0.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but RVB hasn't had a problem welping the fleets of the mighty NC. in your current war with them. So what if they have rules, every major alliance does. Are you trying to imply that your form of PVP is superior simply because the rules they follow are different from yours? That's nonsense.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2012-08-05 03:49:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
MotherMoon wrote:
RiS, that's the point. We and the csm are being asked how they should work. no one wants wow arenas. I think the problem is they are using a word that strikes fear. And it is justified.

The only thing i want as an arena combat allaince member is a bubble that kills you if you try to leave. This would be useful outside of arena combat as you could drop them at POS fights and such. trap the attackers inside your grid, force combat, no running. Unless you have backup kill the shield from outside. But the nice part is the defense would be locked in too.

There are no deatails, we get to ask for what we want. And I want a way kill people who get scared and try to run.

p.s.(that's how the alliance tournament works, and they said they want it to work that way)



force bubble arenas for deathmatches, eh? Why not just make it harder for people to get away in general? Increase align times across the board. Especially take a close look at cloaky transports. I agree they should hard to get, but they're too close to invulnerable atm.


Having a separate mechanic for pvpers to fix a problem with pvp just takes us a step closer to doing away with non-consensual pvp all together.


Just Say no to separate mechanics... it will lead nowhere good.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2012-08-05 03:51:40 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
whats not the same about it. how does perventing people from running away break eve. Please enlighten me.



because it doesn't address the problem of people being able to run away too easily.


if people are running away too easily, then that should be fixed. for everyone. everywhere.



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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-08-05 05:45:54 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Ris Dnalor wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
whats not the same about it. how does perventing people from running away break eve. Please enlighten me.



because it doesn't address the problem of people being able to run away too easily.


if people are running away too easily, then that should be fixed. for everyone. everywhere.





So why not make a new deployable that stops people from running? what if instead of "arena" we just get a new PvP focused mechanic that also happens to make player run alliance tournaments possible?

I now think it should be a pos module. Make it so a POS can trap attackers in the shield. Anyone can come into the shield but leaving kills you. That way you can still in true eve fashion bring in more ships to overwhelm them. What do you think about that idea?

Then the defenders and attackers are stuck untill the pos goes down/into reinforced. This would be combines with how the new pos aren't going to have pos shields. This would give the defenders a mechanics where if they start to overwhelm the attackers, the attackers have to be committed to the fight.

It would have the side effect of letting some people emulate the mechanics of the Alliance tournament

And the reward is the attackers can't run, the risk is, neither can the defenders.

I don't think this kind of mechanic would break eve AT ALL, and it really comes down to people reading the word "arenas" and flipping out and mentioning wow without even reading what the mechanics would actually be.

People are just being children, arenas it just a name. A name doesn't actually mean anything.




Basicly I'm saying I agree with you, and I'm trying to find a comermise. That satisfies what your bring up, while trying to find a way to give other players more tools to mess with. In true sandbox fashion it should have muliple uses, even a few the players come with after they are released.

I do not support any systems in eve that aren't sandboxy. They need to be pen ended, abusable, have a real purpose in the game, and be unfair.

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