EVE General Discussion

I find this thread hilarious. Why? Because I can find one just like it from a year ago. And one just like it from two years ago. And one just like it from three years ago. Etc., etc. All the same complaints, almost verbatim.

I too am somewhat pessimistic about the "rebalance". So far, it seems more of the same old doctrine. Fixing dampening sounds good, but almost nobody would use it as jamming is still superior. More drone boats? Drones still suffer from the same issues of 5 years ago with no end in sight. Rails still have no role, as artillery has better alpha and long-range sniping was made obsolete with probing changes. Blasters still have ludicrously short range which will always keep them from being useful in all but a handful of very specific scenarios. Etc., etc. I don't see any of these changes suddenly making Gallente ships better or more desirable really.

Worst part in all of this? When rebalancing is done, they will put a big fat checkmark next to it and not come back to it for years. So whatever happens, we'll likely be stuck with it for quite a while, no matter how broken it turns out to be.

Myrmidon swapping highs for mids? Sweeeeeeeeeeeet

I would argue that its more like Hybrids, Drones, Missile for Gallente.

Gallente should have been the sheild tankers and the caldari the armour.

I realize this may be sarcasm but just for fun here are some numbers if they used your idea. The result is a 500DPS tank Brutix that has 55 seconds of cap with 2 medium boosters which only fits if you have dread skills or implants(using electron blasters). It goes about 1000m/s and has less than 5km of gun range, 1.5km to 2km of range if you want to do good damage. The end result is 479gun dps with faction antimatter or 525 gun DPS with Void(good luck tracking at 2km). The situation only gets worse when a cane lands 2 neuts on you, not to mention with the right damage type it breaks your tank even when it's working.

So how about we drop to a 250dps tank with 1 rep? Well now you have 1m 31s of cap with 2 boosters, and the cane ROFLstomps you because you have no buffer and a poor active tank.

Now let's check out how that stacks up against the common mouth breather drake for users of auto lock back and F1. It has 290DPS tank, 76000EHP to the Brutix at 26000. It does have 200 less dps but it has about 73km more range and it has 4 minutes of cap. Also, it's faster by 100m/s.

Then give me a dam hull rig extender, remove bulkheads penalties, give me a fecking ancillary hull booster I'll tank it all with DCU II will be able to actually use tackle and webs to make my blasters shine then die pretty like they do now, but at least it will make sense.

The whole idea of active armor tanking is flawed in its current form. The reps take far too long to cycle, don't rep nearly enough and the ships with active armor tanking bonuses lack the low slots to fit a proper buffer armor tank, never mind an effective active one.

Retool gallente as shield tankers.

This!!! It makes no sense to stack more mass on a ship when that mass also impedes mobility when a ship designer could just add more shields. There should be no such thing as armor tank. All ships should be shield tanks. Armor tanking reeks of diversity for its own sake. Its like the designers were just trying to come up with something different just to make something differerent.

CCP needs to think more like ship designers and less like game designers...

I always wondered why ships were even designed with duel tanks.

The Raven has as much Armor HP as about 2, 1600mm Plates. Think of how much faster it would be without that. That is money they could have spent on more shield generators or weapons. The Abbadon has a sustained forcefield around it that disappears after 2 shots, that isn't energy better spent on Capacitor or more powerful engines.

I imagine it happened something like this.

A Lead Designer is standing in front of 20 or so ship engineers. "Okay gentlemen the Caldari Navy is looking to us to make their newest weapon a Missile Focused Heavy Shield Battle Ship. I just want to give you an idea of what direction we will be focusing our efforts in.." The designer pulls a pistol and aims it at his foot. *Bam* "Ahhhhhhh!!! Oh God What Have I Done!!!... " *Ten minutes of screaming later* "You all got that? Good. I want 3 idea's from each of you by the end of the day."