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A possible solution to AFK cloaky alts

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Sniped117
Frozen Holdings
No Concern
#1 - 2011-10-11 22:59:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Sniped117
in the best interest of my alliance im posting on an alt.

On my main i am in null sec and seen enemies to my alliance go in each of our systems with an alt and go cloaked for days and days on end. this disrupts our operations to ratting mining and other profitable isk ways. it started to tear down my alliance these people sitting cloaked off grid waiting to pick off the easy targets when we least expect it and hotdropping us time to time.. It brought my alliance mostly to a halt.

A debatable Solution:

Make it so to activate cloaking modules you must have a fuel to power it instead of using Capacitor power. Maybe a fuel like nitrogen isotopes that is consumed per hour using your cloaky module and is stored in your cargo bay or a cloaked fuels bay. So say covert ops cloak ships with the bonuses to use less fuel per hour would use less fuel per hour while being cloaked moving around while ships with prototype cloaks use more fuel per hour.

Just a thought

cloaking ships are invincible if not seen and menacing and fun to use to your liking. Its a pain in the ass when an alt is sitting in your system for days and days on end... a fuel to consume would eventually run out in were the fuel is held and uncloak the ship therefore easier to find and sotp

cloaking ships have no counter everything else has a counter lets make one for cloakies
Gogurt
#2 - 2011-10-11 23:05:54 UTC
ITT: sensitive miner succumbs to space delirium, due to AFK person
Sniped117
Frozen Holdings
No Concern
#3 - 2011-10-11 23:06:57 UTC
Gogurt wrote:
ITT: sensitive miner succumbs to space delirium, due to AFK person



that and PVE

cloaking ships need a counter its been way too long
Mutie DaPig
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-11 23:10:26 UTC
Any Sov module or something that sends out a pulse every couple of hours that will decloak any ship (not disable it's cloak - the pilot can recloak straight away - or can't solely as he/she is AFK)
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#5 - 2011-10-11 23:12:07 UTC
remove local first.

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Donatella D'Tren
Section 8.
#6 - 2011-10-11 23:12:31 UTC
The counter is have friends protect you. Seems simple.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-11 23:12:39 UTC
Sniped117 wrote:

cloaking ships need a counter its been way too long


False statement. There is a counter to cloak.

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Gogurt
#8 - 2011-10-11 23:13:56 UTC
The only thing you have to fear is fear itself, AFK people, ghosts, monsters aren't going to hurt you. Unless they're not AFK in which case they don't need CCP ******* with them
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#9 - 2011-10-11 23:18:14 UTC
Sniped117 wrote:


On my main i am in null sec and seen enemies to my alliance go in each of our systems with an alt and go cloaked for days and days on end. this disrupts our operations to ratting mining and other profitable isk ways. it started to tear down my alliance these people sitting cloaked off grid waiting to pick off the easy targets when we least expect it and hotdropping us time to time.. It brought my alliance mostly to a halt.



A few things.

You have an alliance brought to it's knees by a guy who's down at the Kwik-E-Mart mart? Might be time to reassess what you are doing in 0.0.

Second. If you are being hot dropped or picked off then he's not AFK, is he?

Working as intended.

Mr Epeen Cool
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2011-10-11 23:18:20 UTC
How about you stop being ******* renters and join a real alliance that can actually defend the space you claim?

Problem solved.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2011-10-11 23:20:26 UTC
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-10-11 23:20:47 UTC
Please don't be dumb Nova,

Local can't be removed till a completely new scanner system is implemented that would give players some warning of other ships nearby without requiring the player to scan to spam a button every 3 seconds or less.

AFK cloakers do need removing, as you can't tell if they are AFK or not..... If they are AFK, fine they are no threat.... if they aren't AFK then they could be sitting 10km away with their finger on point/cyno buttons. Its impossible for a player to know which is which! Often because they are both depending on which particular moment you are talking about.

A module doing a de-cloak burst every 20-30 minutes (deliberatly random, help stops scripts from countering it) would do wonders here without stopping the true purpose of cloaks, bypassing gate camps and harassment.

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Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-11 23:22:12 UTC
A" solution" would imply that there is a problem in the first place. The only "problem" with AFK cloakers is the one you are creating for yourself by running away from them.
mkint
#14 - 2011-10-11 23:22:25 UTC
hooray, this topic again.

didn't realize we're in F&I, where bad ideas go to die.

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The Apostle
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-10-11 23:31:22 UTC
Donatella D'Tren wrote:
The counter is have friends protect you. Seems simple.

lol. Never been hotdropped huh?

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The Apostle
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-10-11 23:39:07 UTC
Name Family Name wrote:
How about you stop being ******* renters and join a real alliance that can actually defend the space you claim?

Problem solved.

And you're obviously content to sit with your ratters and miners hour after hour, fingers on the lock button just waiting for the covert cyno? Unless you're super quick, you ain't gonna get that cyno lighter fast enough. Ever.....

Need pee-bag, lunch, dinner and a servant to bring your food and fluff your bag while you sit. Include 5 lines of sneeze to keep you sharp after the 3rd day.....

Nobody who has ever been AFK cloaked knows where or when it comes..... Nor do you know who or what it is coming through.

Standard alliance/corp protocol is simply not to rat/mine with neut in system. It's called denial and is far more effective against an alliance than actually doing a drop.


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The Apostle
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-10-11 23:40:31 UTC
Jovan Geldon wrote:
A" solution" would imply that there is a problem in the first place. The only "problem" with AFK cloakers is the one you are creating for yourself by running away from them.

Running away from them..... lol.

If you knew where they were, yep....

Cracks me up.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-10-11 23:43:07 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
Donatella D'Tren wrote:
The counter is have friends protect you. Seems simple.

lol. Never been hotdropped huh?



if you were hotdropped, then he wasn't AFK, now was he?

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seany1212
M Y S T
#19 - 2011-10-11 23:45:01 UTC
Confirming that removing local will remove your afk cloaker problems
Seatox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-10-11 23:46:45 UTC
Get in a fleet with your allies (y'know, those people who are supposedly your friends?), get in your voice coms (you have voice coms, right?), have some people in Sabers sitting around fondling their autocannons, and bait that sucker out. Then shoot him. If he lights a cyno, shoot him anyway. If he dosn't do anything then you win anyway, because he's AFK.

I mean, I'm a semi-bear new to this 0.0 thing, but cloakies don't bother me one bit. They just make me ping dscan more for probes and fly something with a decent insurance payout that I can replace if things go welp-shaped.
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