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Any tips to Amarr pilots on how to clear Sansha's 7/10 DED?
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Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-08-02 16:33:15 UTC
I found a 7/10 Sansha DED (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sansha_Military_Operations_Complex) last night and easily blew through the first four rooms with ease in my Legion. Then I got to the last room and suffered utter defeat thanks to that damn stasis tower.

Even when I brought in my pure tank Myrm alt, he didn't last long enough for me to take out that tower. It wasn't until a friend with a Loki joined in (ridiculous EM/Thermal resists) that I was able to kill the tower and clear the room (mind you, even his tank was struggling a bit until the tower died).

Are there any Amarr solutions to clearing that room?

Thanks.

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Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
#2 - 2012-08-02 16:35:36 UTC
I didn't think 7/10 were soloable.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-02 16:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ristlin Wakefield
Chimpy B wrote:
I didn't think 7/10 were soloable.


The wiki had an entry saying that an Ishtar had soloed it. And I duo'd it once with a speed tank Wolf. I would've thought my Legion stood a chance.

Any ideas on the total incoming DPS before the tower goes down?

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-08-02 20:08:04 UTC
Chimpy B wrote:
I didn't think 7/10 were soloable.


Serpentis and Blood are; they're the only ones I have personal experience with. The description makes the Sansha 7/10 look very similar.

Basically, you just have to get the tower down and kite. Same as the 5/10 really. It requires some modicum of tank plus damage projection to 50km. Any BS should be able to do it, and I haven't had (too much) trouble pulling it off in a Tengu in the BR version. Are you fitting beams or pulses on the Legion?
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-08-02 20:25:19 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Chimpy B wrote:
I didn't think 7/10 were soloable.


Serpentis and Blood are; they're the only ones I have personal experience with. The description makes the Sansha 7/10 look very similar.

Basically, you just have to get the tower down and kite. Same as the 5/10 really. It requires some modicum of tank plus damage projection to 50km. Any BS should be able to do it, and I haven't had (too much) trouble pulling it off in a Tengu in the BR version. Are you fitting beams or pulses on the Legion?


I had pulses, so that's probably my first problem. I was also in my secondary tank fit with only about 350 tank dps. How much tank do you use with your Tengu to clear that last room? I can probably push up to between 700 and 900 dps tank, would that buy me enough time to pop the tower?



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linda garcia
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-08-03 05:50:48 UTC
last room dps is really high, however if you kill the tower fast enough you may be able to keep a good range and kill the enemy one by one. i allways use a priest though. be carefull the archiduke can web you also
colimator
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-08-03 07:38:24 UTC  |  Edited by: colimator
i can say for sure that the Gurista version is doable solo in an Ishtar - i use a fit with no sentries, but with a nav computer to speed up the ogres II - 3-slot armor tank (C-type MAR, Kin hardener and C-type nano plating because of the tight CPU with 2 aux nano pump rigs), 10mn AB II and 3 250mm t2 railguns with long range t2 ammo.

The tower melts pretty quickly under the guns + almost max skilled Hammerheads II - they move quickly enough to reach the tower before the incoming dps overwhelms the tank.

One more tip is to kill the ships that hurt you the most first - that is cruisers and BC's, since the battleship dps is greatly reduced on smaller hulls and they pose a smaller threat.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-08-03 13:23:34 UTC
Thanks for the tips guys, I'll give it another shot this weekend if another shows up.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2012-08-03 18:02:18 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I had pulses, so that's probably my first problem. I was also in my secondary tank fit with only about 350 tank dps. How much tank do you use with your Tengu to clear that last room? I can probably push up to between 700 and 900 dps tank, would that buy me enough time to pop the tower?


Just checked: 317. Tower is three volleys, so I have to survive without speed for ~15 seconds. Overheating helps here (which pushes tank to all of 397 but speed up to 858 once the tower is gone -- which is actually more important to getting control of incoming damage). And you are in a T3 after all; you might as well get used to using the overheat bonus.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-08-03 18:04:15 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I had pulses, so that's probably my first problem. I was also in my secondary tank fit with only about 350 tank dps. How much tank do you use with your Tengu to clear that last room? I can probably push up to between 700 and 900 dps tank, would that buy me enough time to pop the tower?


Just checked: 317. Tower is three volleys, so I have to survive without speed for ~15 seconds. Overheating helps here (which pushes tank to all of 397 but speed up to 858 once the tower is gone -- which is actually more important to getting control of incoming damage). And you are in a T3 after all; you might as well get used to using the overheat bonus.


Yeah, I panicked and forgot to overheat : /

Thanks for the info!

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Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2012-08-05 13:20:31 UTC
Lol how are these hard I solo run this all the time in my Mach? Lol a proper fit Mach can do the 8 of 10 and all but the last room in the 10 of 10 lol
Higgs Foton
Mission And Mining Inc
#12 - 2012-08-05 14:03:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Higgs Foton
I soloed this in a Tengu. Had some deadspace modules on it though (AB and shield booster which drop from the Angels 4/10, so nothing too fancy). First three rooms pose no threat, last room is tricky. Align out, AB on, shoot stasis tower. If Stasis tower is dead the room is pretty easy. You deffo need the deadspace shieldbooster though. Its tricky with it already, with T2 fit you won't make it i think.

In an Ishtar it is also doable. Use a dual rep armor tank. Drop senties, shoot statis tower, orbit sentries at 10 km. If statis tower drops fast enough you are safe again and can mop up, though i doubt the Ishtar has enough DPS to bring down the overseer. Tengu already took about 15 minutes shooting the bad guy. Oh, Ishtar also AB fit offcourse.