Crime & Punishment

Oh **** I totally forgot about Rancer. an Eve Landmark. Who's gonna pop my Pod on a shortcut now?!

Nothing is more fun breaking a Gate camp ^_^

Roll in there with a Couple Maelstrom for kicks.

CCP wants to increase Eve online subscriptions for all costs. They thinks if they make the game more "safe" more people will start playing it and paying sub. Thing is todays youngsters have lack of brain and balls to adapt so.. CCP is making game easier.
They do not realize that todays teenagers wont play Eve for years like veterans do and leave eventually.
If veterans leave too who will stay?

I bet the next idea of CCP Greyscale will be some kind of godray striking you to the pieces out from nowhere if you dare to engage one week old noob in lowsec.

You saved me the trouble of pointing that out. Apparently some people are trying to fit a small part of CrimeWatch into the existing system. That's not the case here.

Like I said before, I have questions on the damage scale and what happens when a "suspect" battlecruiser ends up on grid immediately after a triage carrier departs or is destroyed. If this results in someone losing a ship to sentry gun alpha when they jump into lowsec after a canflip, that is NOT a reasonable consequence of their actions.

If it's done intelligently and properly balanced, the dynamic of gate camps will change but you will actually have MORE options on the table because of the low starting DPS. You'll just have to remove ships from the grid after you successfully score a kill. I expect that a month after this goes live, creative groups and individuals will be getting more kills than before, because there will be fewer ships able to slip through their fingers.

I think one thing CCP should look at doing is tying the suspect and criminal timers to sec status, maybe by doing something as simple as multiplying the base time (15 minutes) by the system security level. That would still put you with a 90 second cooldown on criminal activities in a 0.1.

+1 and I love you.

"The general thinking behind this potential change (and again, it's just general thinking, we've not seriously reviewed it yet) is to try and break up "static" gatecamps a little and generally *discourage* hanging around on a gate all day."

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Buffing gate guns to prevent pirates from gatecamping does the exact opposite of what you are inferring. Pirates always camp from safespots if they aren't idiotic and thus barely receive gate gun damage. However, when we do fleet ops, as in fighting other low sec gangs that may or may not also be pirates, we will die because of aggression causing the gate guns to do 3000 or so dps after 60 seconds. That is unfair and nerfs a playstyle of eve, nerfs certain people's ability to have fun in PvP and is a completely stupid feature as well. (can sort of see the reasoning behind it though)

I can see the interesting thought behind the triage reps, but if you really want to implement that i would say that the gate guns only escalate to very high dps levels on capital ships, while remaining their current DPS on cruisers to battleships, then, for frigates starting from a very miniscule amount then ramping up to the current 300 or so gate gun DPS on frigates after around 30 seconds under the guns.

This would accomplish:

1. your weird carrier idea is set up properly, and capital warfare is reduced in lowsec because it isn't supposed to be a huge cap orgy
2. fleet ops aren't completely ****ed instantly if they get aggression, they have the same penalty as before save for any caps they bring in (as in they need to make sure a fight will be won quickly as caps come in).
3. frigates can have some warfare near gates as their gate gun dps ramps up slowly, allowing for a possible quick frig fight prior to warping off because of the increased damage.

For all subcaps, you need to keep gateguns the same in terms of damage. Buffing them or debuffing them just sets off too many problems in the lowsec environment. The frigate changes are reasonable but not really all that needed. Frigate warfare occurs frequently at beacons and sites rather than gates and if i saw a guy on a gate of the system i jumped into, i would warp to a beacon clearly to invite him to follow, and if he was up for a solo fight he would join me there. It's not all that hard to get frig warfare.

However i understand how fleet ops with frigs don't work out if aggression is obtained. Perhaps gate gun DPS could just do less naturally to frigs.

ALONG with this, you need to stop gateguns from shooting drones. Drone boats should not be completely useless in lowsec, as people may want to learn how to use such boats in the entry level pvp low sec is supposed to provide. Think along the lines of that drones should be shot after the ship that deployed them has been destroyed. It is a pain that gallente pilots tend to avoid low sec corps because their ships do not work in environments where you may get aggression. This needs to be addressed because preventing a player from doing a form of gameplay simply because of their faction choice is not very fair.

gate camper tears are the best tears.

I'd be inclined to think roaming bands of faction privateers in lowsec (non-rat spawns) would be more viable than altering various mechanics. NPCs that spawn and warp about engaging people with certain sec-statuses etc. While it brings PVE to PVP, it would offer an interesting dynamic to gate-fights if suddenly NPC spawns started helping one side or another. Let them offer faction standing hits rather than overall security-status hits. For breaking up gate-camps, while it would not 'break it up' it would certainly offer a variable that needs to be taken into account for camps, especially if it also brings with it escalation of force to combat being outgunned, etc.

So you're explaining that there is no other motivation behind those ideas than "just for the lulz" ? in fact you point no major issues about sentries ? o_O (I might misunderstood this point tbh)

So here is my feedback about this "CSM idea" not a "devblog": Improve damages to sentries till they will not be sustainable for subcap fleet, will shutdown several LOW-SEC PERMANENT RESIDENT PLAYER gameplay and RP.
Gate camping a choke point is as fun as frigate pvp in belt, ransoming people is as fun as counting corpse in hangar, looting reckless hauler is as fun as having a good T3 killmail.
Improving Sentries the way you think you're almost shutdown half of those activities.
You will also be able to remove Piracy from the AWESOME "The Sanbox" list on eveonline.com, cause small gang warfare and kill in low-sec doesn't makes people some pirates !