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as of now on sisi, hulk is showing 5%/level resistances on the info as well as on the fitting screen. yield is still at 3%/level for both mining barge and exhumer on the information screen.

also

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1725209#post1725209

more goodies tomorrow.

U can nerf anything BUT don't touch the cargo for the crystals. UI is already a pain in the ass and swapping type will be even more a pain in the ass. Not even mentioning multi boxing

350m3 = 14 crystals = 4 sets. Good for empire, not for 0.0


Go change the cargo on the amarr ship to 5m3 or so.......

I see a problem:
What is the cost of these ships going to be at current mineral prices?

Originally, you had three tiers of Exhumer, with scaling build costs.

Now you have three Exhumers that are in theory equal.

Yet the Skiff is like 100M, the Mack is 170M and the Hulk is almost 300M.

Since the Hulk was improved a bit, and the Mack and Skiff were radically improved - wouldn't it makes sense for all of the new Exhumers cost roughly 400M each?

A Retriever, with a massive cargo bay and large amounts of EHP - still costing 5M is quite silly.

While generally ship buffs and nerfs generally are independent of cost...this is a major rework for the Barge class, and build costs should be revised upwards significantly.....

I see supply and demand working this out. Macs and skiffs are cheep because they're worthless. I would expect them to go up in price between 20 and 50 mil a piece after changes due to demand increase. If what you're saying is true, the economy will hold this out.

as for the t1 barges, They'll go up in price as well for the same reasons, but I would hate to see it get out of hand, because the retriever is a 2 month ship, and it is the first REAL mining ship newbies have. that being said, interceptors are the first real pvp ships pvp players get into and they cost 30 mil to buy hull + fittings, so 15-20 mil would be reasonable for the tier 1 mining ship.

It would have been nice to see the ice / merc rigs changed into a mid slot module. Rig juggling just seems to be another needlessly done mechanic, when a module could easily be put in to accomplish the same thing.

Yield increases seem like the mining equivalent of a weapon damage upgrade. As such it does seem to me to make more sense in the lows and rigs as it currently is.

We all know that rigs are permanent - until you replace/destroy the rig, repackage the ship or get it blown up. :)

I think what Jitaseller is really getting at is that by using a rig to "define" an Ice / Ore / Merc miner, you are unnessarily forcing people to 'buy' 3 ships (if you're doing all 3 activities).

Yes, you can buy multiple rigs and replace the rig each time you change activities, but let's be honest, how many people are going to spend 5M (complete guess here on cost) for a rig change everytime they want to use the same ship hull (e.g. Mack) to do a different activity (e.g. ice to ore to Mercoxit mining). In the short run, it might seem easier, but long term, you're going to be spending a lot of unnecessary ISK on rigs. I'm sure the rig builders won't mind selling those extra rigs though.

By using a mid-slot to define the mining role, you can instead fit that mid-tank item in the rig slots, and use a single hull for all the different mining roles.

Much more streamlined & efficient.

By that logic I should now buy 9 different barges to fill 3 of the roles for each hull?

Posted this in the wrong place before... but...

I think Exhumer tank needs to be brought back up a few more notches. We still don't know what the Destroyer rebalancing and beyond will bring.

Or give us t3 mining ship where we can install modules either for tank, cargo, yield, along with ice, merc, gas, roid modules.