EVE General Discussion

I think CCP is going a little overboard on this change.


Then again, I never had any trouble in low sec... on the gates.

Meh, you need gates for travel, and stations for trade in order to populate low-sec, which means sentry guns that can actually control the space around gates and stations. Ramping up the DPS over time is pretty half-ass.

Of course that makes fights harder to find, so there needs to be something in low-sec that's worth fighting over, and that something needs to be away from gates and stations. Towers? Hunting people mission running, mining, site running, etc.? Some kind of FW-esque sovereignty-ish mechanic that provides bonuses to the "owner" of a low-sec system? *shrug*

Absolutely, but unless the DPS on each ship resets each time it warps off (which makes little sense to me), the DPS would quickly ramp up to the point where (even if it leveled off at Triage Carrier-killing), the Archons would get killed through the RR (unless the guns still cycle targets, which also doesn't make sense given Soundwave(I think)'s wish that a Carrier that triages after starting to get gate gun damage get deadified by said Gate gun damage).

What also makes little sense is why CCP wants to discourage people Triaging on gates, something that normally leads to spectacular fight reports.

Anyway, if the DPS does reset (resulting in an odd bucket line of Carriers warping in, joining the spider, and warping out as the DPS escalates towards breaking what's left of the spider after keeping the HIC alive), or the DPS does cycle (fast enough that you can keep each other alive), then nothing will change except the minimum size of the ships involved (sentry carriers can be aligned if you're willing to warp back and forth from field to POS to stay in range).

The specific ways this would be bad for everyone in LS are, as always, in the details.

All part of the rebalance of EVE. Gate guns are meant to be feared not a toy. If they were never intended to hurt a ship then those gates would never have had guns in the first place. So I think it is a good move. If CCP has things in game like empire navies and gate guns then they should be able to do harm to players they are meant to hurt. But players have been laughing at these things CCP has put into the game for years.

It would seem CCP has heard of your bravado and decided to make these things powerfull enough to hurt and now suddenly we hear the opposite how dare they make their guns hurt what is this, we have to adapt and find a new way to hunt ships in low sec.
Not fair...interesting how the talk goes from bravado to no fair just like that.

Oh and sec status and the grind to keep sec status is finally going to mean something and not to be taken lightly either.
Players have also laughed at this for a long time as well. Now the grind to maintain sec status actually is worth something.
I think it is a good move to rebalance the game and make these things in EVE meaningfull. As it was meant to be.

I would further hazard a guess that this is not the end, and many of these holes in the game will be addressed over time.
The entire new experience of EVE will not happen overnight but when all the changes are complete. In the mean time balance issues will be problemattic but they have been for quite a while so what. Adapt and learn is the motto of EVE right.

We already did come up with how to deal with the Gate guns. It turns gate camping from something you can bust (camping with a couple of BCs) to something that's pretty hard to bust (Sentry Carriers at Range).

Took until post 16 for someone to come up with the Adaptation.


The change is a bad one for the residents of LS. All residents.

Ah the endless, mindless bashing of hi-sec people continues. Such a broken record.

I heard that if you scream and cry while rolling around on the floor throwing a tantrum, CCP might pay attention to you.

You're already off to a good start.

The lesson: consider that if other people manage to move around and survive in lo-sec, but you cant...


...immediately give up trying and don't bother even trying to learn anything because obviously those other guys are exploiting or something. Obviously it's utterly impossible that you did something wrong and could somehow improve your gameplay.

Ok, we are having the same discussion over 2 threads now...^^

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